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man here

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Benayoun is calling for it it is Yossi Benayoun it's true and Vernon Parisa and Benayoun welcome to today's podcast where we Greg and I are joined by

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Yossi Benayoun an absolute pleasure to have you Yossi a legend of the game so I'm excited to to have you on thank you very much Thank you.

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I'm happy to be here with you guys.

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That's good.

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First things first,

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how do you two know each other?

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First from the game,

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but of course from the Liverpool-Legend game.

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We have been lucky to play together.

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Yeah.

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But I was...

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I mean,

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Yussi was a beautiful player,

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you know?

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Yeah.

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So it was always nice to see him playing.

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Thank you very much.

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No,

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it's...

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I mean,

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for me,

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it's an honour today,

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but

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But yeah,

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and the Liverpool-Jean game,

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you know,

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now I'm like a family.

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Yeah,

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but they're just two play against each other.

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Yeah,

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but maybe you don't remember me because I'm too young.

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No,

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of course I remember,

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of course.

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I have the privilege also,

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you know,

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of course we know from the football in general,

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but also we are lucky to be in the Liverpool-Jean.

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I think it's very interesting.

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We are always very happy to come,

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especially when it's in Anfield.

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to meet,

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enjoy the game,

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you know,

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with the full stadium,

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with the fans.

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So it's amazing for us.

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Yeah.

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At this age,

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it was deep play.

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Yeah.

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And so,

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anyway,

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I want to go back to the start of your career,

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Yossi.

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Obviously,

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you started out in Israel,

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but there was a period of time,

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I believe,

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when you were with Ajax as a youngster,

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right?

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Yes.

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I played with the Israel national team under 16 in the European

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Championship. And we achieved the best achievement until two years ago.

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We were third in Europe.

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And I was one of the main players.

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You know,

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I scored a few goals.

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And in this tournament,

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some scouts from

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Ajax came to speak with my coach.

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He wanted me to come for a week,

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for a trial.

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I went to Ajax and then I signed the contract.

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The difficulties for my family were too much,

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so I had to leave after eight months,

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nine months.

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Although the club offered me four years with the first team contract.

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I decided when I was less than 17 to come back to Israel and wait for the next chance to go out to Europe.

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So,

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you know,

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in Israel,

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you need to do army between 18 to 21.

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If you want or even if you don't want,

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you have to do it.

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So I came back to Israel and when I finished,

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I went to Spain to play in Santander.

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So when you were playing in Israel,

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you were doing military service as well?

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from 18 to 21.

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Because I was,

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well,

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when you are a very good player,

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not every player,

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if you are in a top,

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top level,

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so the military,

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they help you,

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they come.

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You don't do what anyone else will do,

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any soldier.

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We get a lot of breaks.

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We come only to do some other things.

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I went to play some football,

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to teach football to some soldiers,

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you know,

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once in a while.

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They help you because they don't want to prevent you from being a successful player.

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well,

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now we changed the rules.

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But at my time,

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you couldn't leave Israel from 18 to 21 to side for other teams in Europe.

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You have to stay in Israel.

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Jeez,

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I didn't know that.

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But now soldiers,

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now in Israel,

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the last few years,

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they changed the rules.

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So you can go sign,

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even if you are in the army,

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they agree something,

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you do only on vacation,

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two,

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three weeks.

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So it's perfect.

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Because of that,

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we have a few youngsters that play,

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you know,

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we have a player who plays in Ajax.

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Israeli players,

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they sign also in Crystal Palace.

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So they are 2021,

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so they can leave Israel with no problem.

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So,

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but...

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At my time,

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it was a bit different.

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So I had to stay three years.

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Well,

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I think it helped me also to my career.

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I played with a big club,

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Maccabi Haifa.

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I took trophies,

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you know,

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I became one of the best in Israel,

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national team.

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And I was ready for my challenge in Europe.

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And I went for 12 years in a row in Europe and came back to Israel.

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Oh,

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you've done all right.

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You've done all right.

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I did not bad.

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It was okay.

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One question.

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If you had stayed at Ajax on the four-year contract,

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would you have got out of the military stuff?

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Would you have been exempt?

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Yeah.

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because I left before,

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you know,

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if I stayed there,

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so I had the right to stay and live in...

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in Holland without doing the military or or agree something to do you know one week two weeks every year just to get some service in Israel to help or to work with some children with people but

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I decided to leave because for me it was perfect but my family you know I was young I took my parents with me my brother it was difficult for them and I decided to put the family first and I came back to Israel and

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In my head,

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I believed in myself that the day will come and I will be more ready and I will go out to play another club in Europe.

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Although the press criticised and they said I would never be a good player because I gave up too quick.

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But I was lucky to prove differently at the end.

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Yeah.

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So obviously you moved to Spain and established yourself at

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Santander.

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Obviously playing a lot of good games.

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How was that?

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Did you take your family out to Spain?

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you were a young kid going to Holland,

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but what was different?

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Why did you stick it out in Spain?

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It was different because,

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first of all,

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I was with my girlfriend.

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I was with my girlfriend since I was 15 and she's my wife.

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We live together now.

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We have five kids together.

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So we left to Spain alone,

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just me and my...

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I just got married.

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When I was 22,

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we finished the season.

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I won the championship in Israel.

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And we got married just one week after the league finished.

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And then I signed the contract in Spain.

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So I left only with my wife.

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So I was ready.

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it was different without taking my family.

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They stayed here,

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my parents,

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brothers.

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And I left alone with my wife.

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I was mature enough.

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I was ready.

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And it was easy for me.

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We learned also quick the language.

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Spanish was easy to learn.

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And I felt ready for the challenge,

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you know,

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and slowly,

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slowly,

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I built myself as a player.

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I improved.

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I felt that I'm improving every year.

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They believe in me and even they,

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you know,

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they choose me.

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Or even I think I was the first foreign captain in the last,

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in the third year.

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you know,

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it's built your confidence.

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But to tell you the truth,

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I never thought I would live to play in England because I played there.

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I had a few offers from big clubs in Spain.

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But the rule was,

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you know,

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only three foreigners can play.

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I didn't have a foreign passport.

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So I started the procedure to take out the passport.

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I agreed with one big club in Spain that

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I would sign for five years and I would stay one more year in Santander because

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I got a letter that I would get my passport in one year.

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And suddenly some offer came from West Ham,

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Bolton and West Ham actually together.

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And I don't know,

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my agent said,

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let's go meet with them.

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And when I had a meeting with West Ham,

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I decided this is the club I want to go,

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you know,

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from nowhere.

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I thought I would stay in Spain for the rest of my career.

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Everyone told me,

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England,

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it's not for you.

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Big guys,

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strong guys.

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you know,

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I'm not that strong,

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you know.

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I play with my head,

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not with my body.

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But it was also a great decision for me.

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So it was great.

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What was it about West Ham though?

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What sucked you in there?

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Was it the fans?

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the stadium?

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first of all,

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I have to tell you the truth.

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The meeting with Alan Pardew was the coach.

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You know,

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when I came to England,

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my idea was Bolton.

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I heard some West Ham,

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maybe yes,

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maybe not.

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And Bolton wanted me.

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So I had to stop in London just because my agent told me,

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look,

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00:08:49.899 --> 00:08:52.220
the manager of West Ham wants a short meeting.

286
00:08:52.620 --> 00:08:53.961
And then we continued to Bolton.

287
00:08:54.001 --> 00:08:54.901
We drive to Bolton,

288
00:08:54.902 --> 00:08:55.141
you know.

289
00:08:56.730 --> 00:08:57.330
It was like this.

290
00:08:57.390 --> 00:08:58.550
I met with him in a hotel.

291
00:08:58.690 --> 00:08:59.311
Maybe we spoke

292
00:08:59.771 --> 00:09:00.951
40, 45 minutes.

293
00:09:01.960 --> 00:09:02.400
We left.

294
00:09:02.700 --> 00:09:03.640
I told to my agent,

295
00:09:04.061 --> 00:09:05.201
I want to play for this guy.

296
00:09:05.889 --> 00:09:06.249
Like this.

297
00:09:07.302 --> 00:09:08.102
I want to play for him.

298
00:09:08.122 --> 00:09:10.487
I felt really the confidence.

299
00:09:10.507 --> 00:09:12.548
I had a good feeling in the conversation.

300
00:09:13.608 --> 00:09:14.169
Of course,

301
00:09:14.429 --> 00:09:15.249
I watched the club.

302
00:09:15.309 --> 00:09:16.209
I watched the fans.

303
00:09:16.229 --> 00:09:16.470
You know,

304
00:09:16.471 --> 00:09:17.450
it was really great.

305
00:09:18.118 --> 00:09:18.778
And on the way,

306
00:09:18.878 --> 00:09:19.179
you know,

307
00:09:19.199 --> 00:09:19.999
I went to Bolton.

308
00:09:20.459 --> 00:09:22.060
I think the story came also in the press.

309
00:09:22.280 --> 00:09:23.861
I started a medical test in

310
00:09:24.281 --> 00:09:26.338
Bolton. I agreed to him.

311
00:09:27.038 --> 00:09:27.959
And I started to run,

312
00:09:27.960 --> 00:09:28.199
you know,

313
00:09:28.239 --> 00:09:28.719
blood test,

314
00:09:28.819 --> 00:09:29.219
everything,

315
00:09:29.439 --> 00:09:29.719
you know.

316
00:09:30.556 --> 00:09:31.900
And in the middle,

317
00:09:31.901 --> 00:09:32.741
I decided to stop.

318
00:09:34.029 --> 00:09:34.569
I stopped.

319
00:09:34.570 --> 00:09:35.450
I took everything out.

320
00:09:35.510 --> 00:09:36.170
And I told him,

321
00:09:36.190 --> 00:09:36.370
look,

322
00:09:36.530 --> 00:09:37.210
I need to think.

323
00:09:38.643 --> 00:09:41.164
I feel something inside that I'm not sure I want to sign,

324
00:09:41.184 --> 00:09:41.424
you know.

325
00:09:42.185 --> 00:09:46.074
And it was difficult to tell them this at the moment.

326
00:09:46.334 --> 00:09:47.895
But we went to the room with the coach.

327
00:09:49.528 --> 00:09:49.648
Oh.

328
00:09:50.628 --> 00:09:53.197
I kept the name of the bot on the

329
00:09:54.220 --> 00:09:55.765
Big Sam He closed the room,

330
00:09:55.766 --> 00:09:57.832
he told me you don't go out if you don't sign the contract

331
00:09:59.188 --> 00:10:00.309
I know you have something else.

332
00:10:00.809 --> 00:10:01.270
I told him,

333
00:10:01.290 --> 00:10:01.450
look,

334
00:10:01.470 --> 00:10:02.070
I need to think.

335
00:10:02.655 --> 00:10:04.736
And I decided at that night to sign for West Ham.

336
00:10:05.753 --> 00:10:07.294
I wouldn't like to say that to Big Sam.

337
00:10:07.295 --> 00:10:08.639
Yeah,

338
00:10:08.719 --> 00:10:08.839
yeah,

339
00:10:08.919 --> 00:10:10.388
it's not easy.

340
00:10:10.668 --> 00:10:16.087
So that's around 2005.

341
00:10:16.088 --> 00:10:16.227
Yeah,

342
00:10:16.228 --> 00:10:18.669
I played 2002-2005 in Spain.

343
00:10:18.670 --> 00:10:19.650
In 2005,

344
00:10:19.651 --> 00:10:20.831
I came to play for West Ham.

345
00:10:21.655 --> 00:10:23.717
And I had a great two years at West Ham.

346
00:10:23.757 --> 00:10:26.239
I think it was one of my best decisions,

347
00:10:26.259 --> 00:10:27.560
the best decision of my career.

348
00:10:28.612 --> 00:10:29.992
Because I enjoy with the fans.

349
00:10:30.032 --> 00:10:31.533
They give me a great feeling.

350
00:10:31.573 --> 00:10:32.713
I built myself in England.

351
00:10:33.285 --> 00:10:36.290
I proved that I can play in England,

352
00:10:36.310 --> 00:10:36.610
you know,

353
00:10:37.010 --> 00:10:39.191
even if it was different football from England.

354
00:10:39.839 --> 00:10:40.979
I knew I had to improve.

355
00:10:41.648 --> 00:10:43.428
I felt that I'm improving every day.

356
00:10:43.528 --> 00:10:44.048
And from there,

357
00:10:44.049 --> 00:10:44.288
you know,

358
00:10:44.408 --> 00:10:48.390
I got the offers from big clubs and I did all my career in England.

359
00:10:48.430 --> 00:10:49.870
It was really amazing.

360
00:10:50.498 --> 00:10:51.638
More than I dream of,

361
00:10:51.658 --> 00:10:51.898
you know.

362
00:10:52.159 --> 00:10:52.739
Even as a kid,

363
00:10:52.740 --> 00:10:54.339
I never dreamed to play for Liverpool,

364
00:10:54.559 --> 00:10:54.919
West Ham,

365
00:10:54.999 --> 00:10:55.320
Chelsea,

366
00:10:55.340 --> 00:10:56.596
Arsenal.

367
00:10:56.597 --> 00:10:57.176
It was great.

368
00:10:57.692 --> 00:10:57.932
Yeah.

369
00:10:58.520 --> 00:10:59.100
And obviously,

370
00:10:59.560 --> 00:11:01.913
you played in that crazy

371
00:11:02.785 --> 00:11:03.806
FA Cup final.

372
00:11:05.558 --> 00:11:06.238
I told you myself,

373
00:11:06.279 --> 00:11:08.019
I hope you will not remind me this game.

374
00:11:11.420 --> 00:11:11.680
Obviously,

375
00:11:11.780 --> 00:11:12.741
against Liverpool.

376
00:11:13.481 --> 00:11:13.761
Obviously,

377
00:11:13.801 --> 00:11:15.342
you went to Liverpool after that.

378
00:11:15.702 --> 00:11:16.182
Do you think,

379
00:11:17.378 --> 00:11:19.919
was it that game that maybe done something for you?

380
00:11:20.419 --> 00:11:20.959
Definitely.

381
00:11:21.300 --> 00:11:21.780
Because...

382
00:11:23.064 --> 00:11:23.284
After,

383
00:11:23.424 --> 00:11:23.644
you know,

384
00:11:23.704 --> 00:11:24.285
my agent,

385
00:11:25.185 --> 00:11:25.365
well,

386
00:11:25.525 --> 00:11:25.965
two agents,

387
00:11:25.966 --> 00:11:26.646
they worked together,

388
00:11:26.746 --> 00:11:27.926
one Argentinian agent,

389
00:11:27.986 --> 00:11:29.007
he knew Rafa Benitez.

390
00:11:29.799 --> 00:11:30.419
And I play,

391
00:11:30.479 --> 00:11:33.020
I think he was one of my best games in the FA Cup final.

392
00:11:33.996 --> 00:11:38.358
I know Steven Gerrard scored last minute to 3-3 and we lost the penalties.

393
00:11:38.954 --> 00:11:40.135
And I think the commentator,

394
00:11:40.195 --> 00:11:41.616
even before the penalty,

395
00:11:41.736 --> 00:11:43.900
said that if Liverpool win,

396
00:11:44.101 --> 00:11:44.741
Steven Gerrard,

397
00:11:44.781 --> 00:11:45.421
man of the match,

398
00:11:45.921 --> 00:11:47.722
but if West Ham win the penalties,

399
00:11:47.842 --> 00:11:49.423
Yossi Benayoun will be man of the match.

400
00:11:50.203 --> 00:11:50.323
So

401
00:11:50.823 --> 00:11:51.964
I really had a great game.

402
00:11:52.480 --> 00:11:52.921
Of course,

403
00:11:52.922 --> 00:11:54.862
I was disappointed that we lost.

404
00:11:55.002 --> 00:11:57.104
But my agent called me straight after the game.

405
00:11:57.105 --> 00:11:57.504
He told me,

406
00:11:57.524 --> 00:11:57.684
look,

407
00:11:57.804 --> 00:11:59.517
Rafa spoke with me.

408
00:12:00.110 --> 00:12:02.992
And he said that Yossi improved unbelievably.

409
00:12:02.993 --> 00:12:03.712
It was great.

410
00:12:04.473 --> 00:12:05.153
And I'm thinking,

411
00:12:05.614 --> 00:12:06.034
you know,

412
00:12:06.035 --> 00:12:06.955
I'm thinking about him.

413
00:12:07.115 --> 00:12:07.775
And a year later,

414
00:12:08.324 --> 00:12:09.264
I signed for Liverpool.

415
00:12:09.344 --> 00:12:10.145
So definitely,

416
00:12:11.362 --> 00:12:14.427
this game was big,

417
00:12:14.607 --> 00:12:14.848
you know,

418
00:12:14.948 --> 00:12:17.730
important to the decision of Liverpool to take me as a player.

419
00:12:18.470 --> 00:12:18.690
Yeah.

420
00:12:19.815 --> 00:12:20.436
And Boisereni?

421
00:12:21.996 --> 00:12:24.077
Anything stopping you from going to Liverpool?

422
00:12:24.078 --> 00:12:25.437
Or was that the next stage?

423
00:12:25.757 --> 00:12:27.118
Was your heart not attached to it?

424
00:12:27.178 --> 00:12:30.419
Because you mentioned that West Ham were the best.

425
00:12:31.179 --> 00:12:32.139
It was a very,

426
00:12:32.239 --> 00:12:33.440
very hard decision.

427
00:12:33.980 --> 00:12:34.800
I just agreed.

428
00:12:35.997 --> 00:12:36.497
Five years,

429
00:12:36.977 --> 00:12:38.157
new contract with West Ham.

430
00:12:39.538 --> 00:12:39.798
You know,

431
00:12:39.838 --> 00:12:41.238
Alan Kerbyshley was the coach.

432
00:12:41.818 --> 00:12:43.459
I agreed for five years.

433
00:12:43.719 --> 00:12:45.079
And I really felt at home.

434
00:12:45.080 --> 00:12:46.920
And suddenly Liverpool came with an offer.

435
00:12:48.504 --> 00:12:49.065
And of course,

436
00:12:49.066 --> 00:12:49.245
you know,

437
00:12:49.425 --> 00:12:50.766
it's difficult,

438
00:12:50.786 --> 00:12:51.847
but you are thinking,

439
00:12:52.427 --> 00:12:56.410
how many times I will have the chance to play for a club like Liverpool?

440
00:12:56.590 --> 00:12:56.870
You know,

441
00:12:56.970 --> 00:12:59.792
I need to try to do this.

442
00:13:00.581 --> 00:13:02.954
And I had to give up 50%

443
00:13:03.394 --> 00:13:04.115
of my contract.

444
00:13:04.395 --> 00:13:08.113
I didn't go for money because Liverpool told me,

445
00:13:08.133 --> 00:13:08.293
look,

446
00:13:08.393 --> 00:13:09.834
we will not say the numbers,

447
00:13:09.894 --> 00:13:11.976
but we can pay only this.

448
00:13:12.056 --> 00:13:12.696
It was 50%

449
00:13:13.377 --> 00:13:14.278
from the new contract.

450
00:13:14.778 --> 00:13:15.899
And I went to West Ham and said,

451
00:13:15.939 --> 00:13:16.079
look,

452
00:13:16.119 --> 00:13:17.080
I don't care about the money.

453
00:13:17.788 --> 00:13:19.288
I want to achieve my dreams.

454
00:13:19.328 --> 00:13:20.209
I want to play for you.

455
00:13:20.569 --> 00:13:21.809
I know I love you very much.

456
00:13:21.869 --> 00:13:22.950
I know you did everything for me,

457
00:13:23.722 --> 00:13:24.642
but you need to understand.

458
00:13:24.682 --> 00:13:29.679
So we had the discussions about three weeks until they agreed to,

459
00:13:29.999 --> 00:13:32.480
because they saw that I'm insisting,

460
00:13:32.500 --> 00:13:33.100
I want to play.

461
00:13:33.400 --> 00:13:34.500
And I did it in a good way.

462
00:13:34.801 --> 00:13:36.061
I didn't fight with West Ham.

463
00:13:36.921 --> 00:13:37.561
And in the end,

464
00:13:37.562 --> 00:13:38.882
they got the money that they asked.

465
00:13:39.458 --> 00:13:40.838
So it was good for both sides.

466
00:13:41.634 --> 00:13:42.695
And I thought to myself,

467
00:13:42.775 --> 00:13:42.935
look,

468
00:13:43.055 --> 00:13:43.955
I give up for money.

469
00:13:44.295 --> 00:13:45.856
I want the chance to play for a big club.

470
00:13:45.956 --> 00:13:47.176
I will try to prove myself.

471
00:13:48.004 --> 00:13:49.525
Because I did my head,

472
00:13:49.605 --> 00:13:50.905
if I would not be successful,

473
00:13:51.477 --> 00:13:52.737
still I would be able to find,

474
00:13:52.777 --> 00:13:53.958
because my year is at West Ham,

475
00:13:55.522 --> 00:13:58.151
I can go level down to play for another club,

476
00:13:58.152 --> 00:13:58.351
you know,

477
00:13:58.371 --> 00:13:59.991
if I would not be successful at Liverpool.

478
00:14:00.619 --> 00:14:00.779
Yeah.

479
00:14:00.780 --> 00:14:02.728
But I had a great first season.

480
00:14:03.696 --> 00:14:08.378
I think I scored 11 goals and 9 or 10 assists in my first season at Liverpool.

481
00:14:09.322 --> 00:14:11.242
And then I agreed a new contract with Liverpool,

482
00:14:11.282 --> 00:14:12.963
so I signed for four more years,

483
00:14:12.983 --> 00:14:16.232
so everything went perfect for me.

484
00:14:17.136 --> 00:14:17.477
I think,

485
00:14:17.497 --> 00:14:17.737
you know,

486
00:14:17.957 --> 00:14:18.217
Yuzi,

487
00:14:18.538 --> 00:14:21.981
it's really difficult to turn down an offer from Liverpool Football Club.

488
00:14:22.521 --> 00:14:23.041
Definitely.

489
00:14:24.162 --> 00:14:25.263
Because of the prestige,

490
00:14:25.264 --> 00:14:25.764
the DNA.

491
00:14:26.124 --> 00:14:28.006
And I keep saying to the guys every time,

492
00:14:28.106 --> 00:14:29.607
signing for Liverpool is something,

493
00:14:29.687 --> 00:14:30.748
but playing for Liverpool,

494
00:14:30.828 --> 00:14:31.929
it's something different.

495
00:14:31.930 --> 00:14:32.149
You know,

496
00:14:32.169 --> 00:14:33.590
I didn't know how special it is.

497
00:14:33.610 --> 00:14:34.391
I knew Liverpool.

498
00:14:34.691 --> 00:14:38.134
My father was a big fan of Liverpool in the early years,

499
00:14:38.154 --> 00:14:38.434
you know,

500
00:14:38.815 --> 00:14:41.117
with Kenny Delglish and the ex-players.

501
00:14:42.085 --> 00:14:45.388
But when I arrived to Liverpool and then my first time at Anfield,

502
00:14:46.480 --> 00:14:47.422
I was amazing.

503
00:14:47.423 --> 00:14:47.663
You know,

504
00:14:47.783 --> 00:14:48.685
I had a good mom.

505
00:14:48.725 --> 00:14:50.348
I went in the tunnel and I said,

506
00:14:50.549 --> 00:14:50.729
God,

507
00:14:50.789 --> 00:14:55.434
thank you very much for giving me this opportunity to play.

508
00:14:55.615 --> 00:14:58.080
And I was very lucky to be there three years.

509
00:14:59.188 --> 00:15:00.729
And it was amazing,

510
00:15:00.730 --> 00:15:02.258
you know.

511
00:15:02.958 --> 00:15:04.359
Some good moments at Liverpool.

512
00:15:05.768 --> 00:15:06.069
Obviously,

513
00:15:06.637 --> 00:15:08.159
Champions League hat-tricks.

514
00:15:09.579 --> 00:15:13.474
Scoring at the Bernabeu against Real Madrid.

515
00:15:14.831 --> 00:15:15.271
We did.

516
00:15:15.972 --> 00:15:17.825
Yeah.

517
00:15:17.826 --> 00:15:18.666
I'm just curious,

518
00:15:19.326 --> 00:15:19.506
when

519
00:15:20.067 --> 00:15:25.231
Liverpool went to the Bernabeu and obviously you scored to beat Real Madrid,

520
00:15:27.076 --> 00:15:27.636
was there that...

521
00:15:27.876 --> 00:15:28.496
actual belief?

522
00:15:28.516 --> 00:15:31.205
Because that was a very good Real Madrid team at the time.

523
00:15:31.265 --> 00:15:36.644
Did Rafa Benitez actually go there and actually think you guys could win when you won that game?

524
00:15:36.663 --> 00:15:37.123
I will tell you,

525
00:15:37.223 --> 00:15:38.043
I think Liverpool,

526
00:15:38.103 --> 00:15:39.644
we were not in a good moment.

527
00:15:39.884 --> 00:15:40.884
And the rumours were,

528
00:15:41.064 --> 00:15:41.885
before that game,

529
00:15:42.005 --> 00:15:43.144
that Rafa is leaving.

530
00:15:45.773 --> 00:15:46.013
You know,

531
00:15:46.014 --> 00:15:46.793
in the dressing room,

532
00:15:46.833 --> 00:15:48.094
the press and everything,

533
00:15:48.354 --> 00:15:48.994
they said OK,

534
00:15:49.414 --> 00:15:53.407
they will lose also to Real Madrid and it will be the time to depart,

535
00:15:53.587 --> 00:15:53.887
you know,

536
00:15:53.987 --> 00:15:55.528
waves with Rafa.

537
00:15:55.668 --> 00:15:56.208
This was the...

538
00:15:56.956 --> 00:15:58.857
The mindset that we went to the game,

539
00:15:58.897 --> 00:15:59.337
but Rafa,

540
00:15:59.357 --> 00:15:59.877
of course.

541
00:15:59.897 --> 00:16:00.518
You know Rafa,

542
00:16:00.798 --> 00:16:02.699
when he concentrates the tactics,

543
00:16:02.859 --> 00:16:03.239
everything,

544
00:16:03.240 --> 00:16:05.220
he loves to work the tactics to prepare you well.

545
00:16:06.036 --> 00:16:07.276
He concentrates on that.

546
00:16:07.697 --> 00:16:11.438
I was lucky also to be when he picked me to the first XI,

547
00:16:11.698 --> 00:16:11.959
you know.

548
00:16:12.787 --> 00:16:15.468
And I think we worked really hard against a very good team.

549
00:16:15.488 --> 00:16:15.868
I don't know,

550
00:16:15.908 --> 00:16:16.168
you know,

551
00:16:16.268 --> 00:16:16.709
Raul,

552
00:16:16.769 --> 00:16:17.229
Ruben,

553
00:16:17.977 --> 00:16:18.257
Guti,

554
00:16:18.337 --> 00:16:18.857
Marcelo,

555
00:16:20.659 --> 00:16:21.058
Ramos.

556
00:16:21.500 --> 00:16:21.779
Really,

557
00:16:21.839 --> 00:16:23.861
really good team of Real Madrid.

558
00:16:24.580 --> 00:16:26.121
But I think we deserved the win.

559
00:16:26.122 --> 00:16:27.302
It was a very tight game,

560
00:16:27.362 --> 00:16:28.703
not many chances,

561
00:16:28.783 --> 00:16:30.744
but we stood well tactically.

562
00:16:31.440 --> 00:16:33.221
And I was lucky with the cross of

563
00:16:34.183 --> 00:16:34.822
Fabio Aurelio,

564
00:16:34.982 --> 00:16:35.983
seven minutes to the end,

565
00:16:36.635 --> 00:16:37.415
to score the winner.

566
00:16:38.060 --> 00:16:38.820
And personally,

567
00:16:39.200 --> 00:16:39.961
after this game,

568
00:16:39.981 --> 00:16:40.321
I think,

569
00:16:43.410 --> 00:16:44.511
I always believed in myself,

570
00:16:44.571 --> 00:16:44.931
but you know,

571
00:16:44.932 --> 00:16:45.751
the fans love me.

572
00:16:46.332 --> 00:16:47.272
But after this game,

573
00:16:47.733 --> 00:16:49.514
I think everyone believes in me more.

574
00:16:50.190 --> 00:16:50.370
And

575
00:16:50.870 --> 00:16:52.051
I felt it from the fans,

576
00:16:52.131 --> 00:16:53.172
from the press in England.

577
00:16:53.592 --> 00:16:54.313
Every game after,

578
00:16:54.433 --> 00:16:54.593
also,

579
00:16:54.633 --> 00:16:55.634
I played better and better.

580
00:16:55.654 --> 00:16:57.356
I scored a few goals even after this game.

581
00:16:58.332 --> 00:16:59.413
And from this moment,

582
00:16:59.433 --> 00:17:01.435
I felt really appreciated by everyone,

583
00:17:01.615 --> 00:17:01.876
you know.

584
00:17:02.016 --> 00:17:03.197
Because when I went to Liverpool,

585
00:17:04.034 --> 00:17:04.755
some of the players,

586
00:17:04.834 --> 00:17:05.795
even ex-players,

587
00:17:05.835 --> 00:17:06.095
you know,

588
00:17:06.196 --> 00:17:07.397
some of them of Liverpool said,

589
00:17:08.085 --> 00:17:10.707
why we need to bring Israeli player Yossi Benham from West Ham?

590
00:17:12.953 --> 00:17:14.094
What he can give to Liverpool,

591
00:17:14.095 --> 00:17:14.334
you know.

592
00:17:14.374 --> 00:17:16.937
And I can understand because big clubs,

593
00:17:17.297 --> 00:17:19.547
they want big names most of the time.

594
00:17:20.360 --> 00:17:20.680
Thanks.

595
00:17:21.124 --> 00:17:26.087
This is also something that gave me the drive to prove myself more.

596
00:17:26.772 --> 00:17:28.452
And I was happy that I proved.

597
00:17:28.454 --> 00:17:29.494
And even those players,

598
00:17:30.089 --> 00:17:32.707
I had some interviews after that said,

599
00:17:33.007 --> 00:17:34.487
Yossi surprised me very much.

600
00:17:34.627 --> 00:17:35.748
He well deserved to play.

601
00:17:36.248 --> 00:17:36.829
And suddenly,

602
00:17:36.909 --> 00:17:38.109
when I was not in the XI,

603
00:17:38.370 --> 00:17:39.630
they went to the press and said,

604
00:17:39.830 --> 00:17:41.071
we don't understand where Rafa is.

605
00:17:41.072 --> 00:17:41.932
Don't put him in the XI.

606
00:17:42.172 --> 00:17:42.292
So,

607
00:17:43.192 --> 00:17:43.452
you know,

608
00:17:43.612 --> 00:17:44.693
I won this battle,

609
00:17:44.694 --> 00:17:44.953
you know,

610
00:17:47.087 --> 00:17:47.607
personally.

611
00:17:47.687 --> 00:17:48.668
And it was great.

612
00:17:48.728 --> 00:17:49.747
It was really,

613
00:17:49.807 --> 00:17:50.268
really good.

614
00:17:50.344 --> 00:17:52.707
great three years to play for this wonderful club.

615
00:17:54.122 --> 00:17:58.580
And you scored hat-tricks in

616
00:17:59.300 --> 00:17:59.761
FA Cup,

617
00:17:59.961 --> 00:18:01.723
Champions League and the FA Cup.

618
00:18:02.162 --> 00:18:02.342
Yes,

619
00:18:02.382 --> 00:18:03.423
I was.

620
00:18:03.424 --> 00:18:05.904
I think the only Liverpool player was to do it.

621
00:18:06.486 --> 00:18:06.706
Yeah.

622
00:18:07.005 --> 00:18:08.367
And as a midfielder,

623
00:18:10.275 --> 00:18:12.216
obviously you're listed as a midfielder.

624
00:18:12.797 --> 00:18:13.597
What was your kind of...

625
00:18:13.757 --> 00:18:14.017
Yeah,

626
00:18:14.057 --> 00:18:14.599
midfielder,

627
00:18:14.600 --> 00:18:14.838
you know,

628
00:18:15.058 --> 00:18:15.418
exactly.

629
00:18:15.538 --> 00:18:15.860
This way,

630
00:18:16.360 --> 00:18:16.600
you know,

631
00:18:16.620 --> 00:18:17.861
everyone's surprised because...

632
00:18:18.796 --> 00:18:20.057
I played number 10,

633
00:18:20.077 --> 00:18:20.957
I played on the wing,

634
00:18:21.486 --> 00:18:24.306
but my game was always to look for the goal,

635
00:18:25.027 --> 00:18:27.149
even for the assist or to score.

636
00:18:27.912 --> 00:18:29.593
I looked for the dangerous area,

637
00:18:29.753 --> 00:18:30.533
always to be there,

638
00:18:30.713 --> 00:18:31.894
always to do something.

639
00:18:33.675 --> 00:18:35.075
The supporters are looking for this.

640
00:18:35.563 --> 00:18:37.124
I was lucky to score a lot of goals.

641
00:18:37.788 --> 00:18:38.549
But like you said,

642
00:18:38.609 --> 00:18:41.591
even if you look on the list today of the players who did it,

643
00:18:41.630 --> 00:18:42.670
I think there is not many,

644
00:18:43.406 --> 00:18:44.467
but Harry Kane,

645
00:18:44.527 --> 00:18:44.987
Aguero,

646
00:18:45.779 --> 00:18:46.199
Plaston,

647
00:18:46.279 --> 00:18:47.300
this level.

648
00:18:47.580 --> 00:18:48.741
Most of them are strikers.

649
00:18:49.282 --> 00:18:49.402
Yeah.

650
00:18:49.403 --> 00:18:50.303
And I'm not a striker.

651
00:18:50.303 --> 00:18:51.444
So I'm the only midfielder,

652
00:18:51.464 --> 00:18:51.744
I think,

653
00:18:52.144 --> 00:18:53.024
that leads the score.

654
00:18:53.641 --> 00:18:56.063
I was lucky to score Champions League,

655
00:18:56.102 --> 00:18:56.543
FA Cup,

656
00:18:56.643 --> 00:18:56.924
you know,

657
00:18:57.103 --> 00:18:57.745
and then the league.

658
00:18:58.589 --> 00:18:58.708
So,

659
00:18:59.325 --> 00:18:59.685
I don't know.

660
00:18:59.687 --> 00:19:00.687
This was my game also.

661
00:19:00.966 --> 00:19:02.067
Same with the national team.

662
00:19:02.207 --> 00:19:03.568
I have 24 goals.

663
00:19:04.321 --> 00:19:06.342
You can see I'm third in the history.

664
00:19:06.443 --> 00:19:08.623
But you can see the first 10 players,

665
00:19:09.044 --> 00:19:10.206
nine are strikers.

666
00:19:10.505 --> 00:19:10.946
And only me,

667
00:19:11.246 --> 00:19:11.707
midfielder.

668
00:19:11.707 --> 00:19:11.826
Yeah.

669
00:19:11.827 --> 00:19:11.947
So,

670
00:19:11.947 --> 00:19:12.447
this was a...

671
00:19:15.417 --> 00:19:30.278
important part of my game to look for the goal all the time it was your game it was my game trying to be dangerous yeah always in between the lines I just think from my memories of watching you playing if you asked me now where did he play

672
00:19:30.698 --> 00:19:44.692
I would have said I don't know you were always like out in the left coming in exactly I used to play come to play a lot from the left left wing yeah love to play but some games you know Rafa put me on the right sometimes number 10

673
00:19:45.100 --> 00:19:47.422
Even when I went to loan in Arsenal,

674
00:19:48.410 --> 00:19:49.210
late in my career,

675
00:19:49.331 --> 00:19:51.232
always some games he put me number eight,

676
00:19:51.272 --> 00:19:51.952
number 10,

677
00:19:51.953 --> 00:19:52.172
you know,

678
00:19:52.173 --> 00:19:52.593
on the wing.

679
00:19:52.653 --> 00:19:55.331
So I used to play lots of free,

680
00:19:56.843 --> 00:19:58.644
all the positions in attack.

681
00:19:59.449 --> 00:20:02.791
And is that something like Rafa or whoever would say to you,

682
00:20:02.811 --> 00:20:02.991
like,

683
00:20:03.919 --> 00:20:05.119
just go do your own thing,

684
00:20:05.339 --> 00:20:06.180
just be dangerous?

685
00:20:07.240 --> 00:20:07.520
Rafa,

686
00:20:07.701 --> 00:20:08.121
it's more,

687
00:20:09.121 --> 00:20:09.881
he loves,

688
00:20:10.022 --> 00:20:10.582
as I told you,

689
00:20:11.062 --> 00:20:11.742
more the tactics.

690
00:20:11.802 --> 00:20:13.643
When he put me one game on the left,

691
00:20:13.644 --> 00:20:14.003
he told me,

692
00:20:14.004 --> 00:20:14.443
you'll see,

693
00:20:14.444 --> 00:20:17.636
I don't want the right back to be alone,

694
00:20:17.657 --> 00:20:18.317
even not once.

695
00:20:18.557 --> 00:20:18.677
So,

696
00:20:18.817 --> 00:20:19.057
you know,

697
00:20:19.077 --> 00:20:21.638
I need to walk like crazy to go with him all the time.

698
00:20:21.678 --> 00:20:22.199
But of course,

699
00:20:22.200 --> 00:20:22.599
in attack,

700
00:20:22.600 --> 00:20:23.059
he tells you,

701
00:20:23.659 --> 00:20:24.359
do what you know,

702
00:20:24.968 --> 00:20:25.828
go to the middle,

703
00:20:25.888 --> 00:20:27.129
do what you do all the time,

704
00:20:27.209 --> 00:20:27.689
you know.

705
00:20:28.489 --> 00:20:30.430
Sometimes if you want to change position,

706
00:20:30.510 --> 00:20:30.831
change,

707
00:20:30.911 --> 00:20:33.312
but you have to be responsible that someone else will be.

708
00:20:33.877 --> 00:20:35.037
So if I go to the middle,

709
00:20:35.038 --> 00:20:35.918
I need to tell to the guy,

710
00:20:36.058 --> 00:20:37.839
you have to be with the right back all the way,

711
00:20:37.979 --> 00:20:38.600
because if not,

712
00:20:38.620 --> 00:20:39.160
it's my fault.

713
00:20:39.200 --> 00:20:41.665
So it was very clear by Rafa.

714
00:20:41.725 --> 00:20:42.086
And also,

715
00:20:43.290 --> 00:20:44.011
more what you said,

716
00:20:44.051 --> 00:20:45.472
even if it was only for one year,

717
00:20:45.512 --> 00:20:45.812
it was

718
00:20:46.252 --> 00:20:48.001
Arsene Wenger at Arsenal.

719
00:20:48.181 --> 00:20:49.726
He used to say to me,

720
00:20:49.866 --> 00:20:50.547
to Rosicky,

721
00:20:50.747 --> 00:20:52.048
to any other player,

722
00:20:52.088 --> 00:20:52.568
Walcott,

723
00:20:52.569 --> 00:20:53.169
it doesn't matter,

724
00:20:53.189 --> 00:20:53.729
or Arteta.

725
00:20:54.545 --> 00:20:55.086
I trust you.

726
00:20:55.286 --> 00:20:55.526
Okay,

727
00:20:55.566 --> 00:20:57.007
you start the position,

728
00:20:57.067 --> 00:20:57.468
but Yossi,

729
00:20:57.508 --> 00:20:58.048
I trust you.

730
00:20:58.108 --> 00:20:59.490
If you want to finish middle,

731
00:20:59.910 --> 00:21:00.210
left,

732
00:21:00.290 --> 00:21:00.530
right,

733
00:21:00.631 --> 00:21:01.191
I don't care.

734
00:21:01.743 --> 00:21:03.765
As long as someone else will be in the position.

735
00:21:03.766 --> 00:21:04.386
Do what you want.

736
00:21:05.362 --> 00:21:06.323
He'll give you more freedom.

737
00:21:07.283 --> 00:21:09.745
If you're obviously a manager,

738
00:21:10.422 --> 00:21:12.524
would you give a guy like Yossi just free roam now?

739
00:21:12.525 --> 00:21:16.847
Because I think a lot of football is now very structured.

740
00:21:16.907 --> 00:21:20.570
I think now you see less team playing with a number 10.

741
00:21:20.991 --> 00:21:21.111
Yeah.

742
00:21:21.451 --> 00:21:23.173
And I am from a generation...

743
00:21:23.497 --> 00:21:25.319
where I learned the football with a number 10.

744
00:21:25.719 --> 00:21:25.899
Yeah.

745
00:21:26.239 --> 00:21:26.519
You know,

746
00:21:26.880 --> 00:21:28.921
especially when we had like Zidane,

747
00:21:29.021 --> 00:21:29.462
you know,

748
00:21:29.482 --> 00:21:30.082
from France,

749
00:21:30.083 --> 00:21:30.282
you know,

750
00:21:30.342 --> 00:21:30.462
and,

751
00:21:30.543 --> 00:21:31.383
you know,

752
00:21:31.824 --> 00:21:32.204
Cruyff,

753
00:21:32.344 --> 00:21:32.804
Maradona,

754
00:21:32.844 --> 00:21:33.505
this type of player.

755
00:21:33.625 --> 00:21:35.807
And I think depending on what you are doing in terms of,

756
00:21:35.867 --> 00:21:36.107
you know,

757
00:21:36.147 --> 00:21:36.587
animation,

758
00:21:37.552 --> 00:21:38.092
with the ball,

759
00:21:38.112 --> 00:21:38.312
you know,

760
00:21:38.313 --> 00:21:38.873
in position,

761
00:21:39.013 --> 00:21:40.013
but the player like him,

762
00:21:40.666 --> 00:21:41.547
if I am the manager,

763
00:21:41.587 --> 00:21:43.048
I would play him as a number 10,

764
00:21:43.088 --> 00:21:44.829
a prop number 10 in between the lines.

765
00:21:45.509 --> 00:21:45.750
You know,

766
00:21:45.830 --> 00:21:46.170
of course,

767
00:21:46.171 --> 00:21:47.571
you need to adjust and to have,

768
00:21:47.572 --> 00:21:47.751
you know,

769
00:21:47.911 --> 00:21:49.032
the profile around him,

770
00:21:49.132 --> 00:21:49.372
you know,

771
00:21:49.373 --> 00:21:49.933
to defend.

772
00:21:50.817 --> 00:21:51.918
But I understand,

773
00:21:52.419 --> 00:21:52.779
of course,

774
00:21:53.159 --> 00:21:55.161
why Rafa told him to track the right back,

775
00:21:55.181 --> 00:21:57.323
because in England it's always an open game.

776
00:21:58.740 --> 00:21:59.620
You have to run a lot.

777
00:21:59.941 --> 00:22:01.122
But yeah,

778
00:22:01.142 --> 00:22:01.722
of course,

779
00:22:01.762 --> 00:22:03.884
that's why I said to you before the podcast,

780
00:22:03.885 --> 00:22:05.825
he was an unbelievable player technically,

781
00:22:05.926 --> 00:22:09.228
because he couldn't see the last pass,

782
00:22:09.989 --> 00:22:10.789
play the last ball,

783
00:22:10.890 --> 00:22:11.590
scoring goals,

784
00:22:12.235 --> 00:22:15.177
and to be like a magician.

785
00:22:15.497 --> 00:22:16.078
So,

786
00:22:16.798 --> 00:22:17.439
as a manager,

787
00:22:17.499 --> 00:22:18.380
I love this type of player.

788
00:22:18.480 --> 00:22:19.280
You remember me,

789
00:22:19.300 --> 00:22:20.602
I had a young boy last year,

790
00:22:20.822 --> 00:22:21.594
Igor.

791
00:22:21.714 --> 00:22:21.895
Igor,

792
00:22:21.915 --> 00:22:22.155
you know,

793
00:22:22.215 --> 00:22:22.895
and like an

794
00:22:23.356 --> 00:22:24.156
English-Polish guy,

795
00:22:24.909 --> 00:22:25.850
but really smart,

796
00:22:25.851 --> 00:22:26.090
you know,

797
00:22:26.130 --> 00:22:27.331
really elegant on the ball.

798
00:22:27.391 --> 00:22:27.531
And

799
00:22:28.372 --> 00:22:29.393
I love this type of player.

800
00:22:29.513 --> 00:22:30.333
So it's a big demand,

801
00:22:30.334 --> 00:22:30.454
eh?

802
00:22:31.222 --> 00:22:31.342
Yeah,

803
00:22:31.343 --> 00:22:32.443
of course.

804
00:22:33.404 --> 00:22:34.945
But I think it could be a big threat.

805
00:22:35.405 --> 00:22:35.626
Yeah.

806
00:22:37.379 --> 00:22:37.679
Obviously,

807
00:22:37.819 --> 00:22:38.660
after Liverpool,

808
00:22:39.020 --> 00:22:41.927
you moved on to Chelsea.

809
00:22:42.187 --> 00:22:43.308
How did that come about?

810
00:22:43.568 --> 00:22:44.389
and

811
00:22:45.053 --> 00:22:46.094
What made it Chelsea?

812
00:22:46.174 --> 00:22:48.917
Was that the only team that was interested in you at that time?

813
00:22:49.549 --> 00:22:49.669
No,

814
00:22:49.989 --> 00:22:50.850
I will tell you the truth.

815
00:22:50.890 --> 00:22:53.833
I never really wanted to leave Liverpool.

816
00:22:55.053 --> 00:22:59.237
I had a contract for a few more years and I had no intention to leave.

817
00:22:59.317 --> 00:23:00.738
But in the last few months,

818
00:23:00.778 --> 00:23:06.326
I felt me and Rafa didn't go as planned.

819
00:23:06.327 --> 00:23:06.566
You know,

820
00:23:06.587 --> 00:23:07.287
it was before.

821
00:23:07.327 --> 00:23:10.814
I didn't like the way he treated me in the last few months.

822
00:23:10.994 --> 00:23:13.516
I think I deserved much more credit.

823
00:23:14.809 --> 00:23:15.049
And

824
00:23:15.510 --> 00:23:17.111
I felt that always

825
00:23:17.451 --> 00:23:19.352
I'm the one who pays for his decisions.

826
00:23:20.125 --> 00:23:21.005
And I wanted to play,

827
00:23:21.025 --> 00:23:21.926
I wanted to enjoy,

828
00:23:21.966 --> 00:23:23.927
and I felt that with him it's impossible.

829
00:23:24.695 --> 00:23:25.556
So I was tricked.

830
00:23:25.557 --> 00:23:29.530
I was telling him that if he will stay,

831
00:23:30.371 --> 00:23:31.352
I prefer to move.

832
00:23:32.580 --> 00:23:35.942
And of course I got a big offer from Chelsea.

833
00:23:36.042 --> 00:23:39.080
But I was waiting because the rumors were that

834
00:23:39.560 --> 00:23:40.141
Rafa will leave.

835
00:23:41.033 --> 00:23:42.573
And the owner also told me to wait.

836
00:23:42.574 --> 00:23:43.794
So I was waiting.

837
00:23:43.854 --> 00:23:46.195
And Rafa told me,

838
00:23:47.055 --> 00:23:47.315
you know,

839
00:23:47.335 --> 00:23:47.975
we speak freely.

840
00:23:48.015 --> 00:23:49.215
And I called Rafa,

841
00:23:49.415 --> 00:23:50.116
tell me the truth,

842
00:23:50.196 --> 00:23:50.996
what it's going to be.

843
00:23:51.652 --> 00:23:52.112
And he told me,

844
00:23:52.132 --> 00:23:52.412
Yossi,

845
00:23:52.612 --> 00:23:52.792
look,

846
00:23:52.892 --> 00:23:53.753
I want you to stay.

847
00:23:54.293 --> 00:23:56.513
But I decided to stay for one more year.

848
00:23:57.297 --> 00:23:57.418
So

849
00:23:58.238 --> 00:23:58.578
I said,

850
00:23:58.618 --> 00:23:58.858
okay,

851
00:23:58.978 --> 00:23:59.758
thank you very much.

852
00:23:59.798 --> 00:24:02.199
So I had to go to sign for another club.

853
00:24:03.047 --> 00:24:04.627
And when I signed for Chelsea,

854
00:24:04.747 --> 00:24:05.708
a few days later,

855
00:24:06.008 --> 00:24:07.768
I think Rafa signed for Inter Milan.

856
00:24:08.696 --> 00:24:09.217
So he left.

857
00:24:10.333 --> 00:24:10.453
you

858
00:24:11.209 --> 00:24:11.889
He didn't really,

859
00:24:12.810 --> 00:24:15.871
I felt that he didn't say the truth really in the conversation.

860
00:24:15.931 --> 00:24:18.653
And this is why I was very disappointed.

861
00:24:19.553 --> 00:24:19.713
And

862
00:24:20.793 --> 00:24:23.375
I said it to the press when I'm not used to speak to the press.

863
00:24:23.435 --> 00:24:24.975
But I felt really,

864
00:24:26.172 --> 00:24:27.032
really disappointed,

865
00:24:27.092 --> 00:24:27.592
really angry.

866
00:24:27.712 --> 00:24:28.093
Although,

867
00:24:28.133 --> 00:24:28.373
you know,

868
00:24:28.453 --> 00:24:29.353
Chelsea is a big club,

869
00:24:29.373 --> 00:24:29.813
of course.

870
00:24:29.853 --> 00:24:29.973
And,

871
00:24:29.974 --> 00:24:30.233
you know,

872
00:24:30.994 --> 00:24:34.984
it was amazing also to know a coach like Ancelotti and

873
00:24:35.464 --> 00:24:36.324
Mr. Avramovic.

874
00:24:36.384 --> 00:24:37.365
And plus,

875
00:24:37.525 --> 00:24:38.125
it was also...

876
00:24:39.077 --> 00:24:41.358
Something you always have to remember for your career.

877
00:24:42.394 --> 00:24:43.194
But if it was

878
00:24:43.575 --> 00:24:45.215
100% depending on me,

879
00:24:45.255 --> 00:24:47.016
I didn't want to leave Liverpool.

880
00:24:47.652 --> 00:24:49.413
I wanted to stay as long as possible.

881
00:24:50.401 --> 00:24:51.781
But it's the way football works,

882
00:24:51.782 --> 00:24:52.021
you know.

883
00:24:52.462 --> 00:24:54.903
I think if Rafa was straight with me and telling me,

884
00:24:54.983 --> 00:24:55.143
look,

885
00:24:55.203 --> 00:24:55.443
Yossi,

886
00:24:55.503 --> 00:24:56.203
I'm going to leave,

887
00:24:56.204 --> 00:24:57.944
it would take one month,

888
00:24:57.945 --> 00:24:58.384
two months,

889
00:24:59.044 --> 00:24:59.824
so I would stay.

890
00:25:00.841 --> 00:25:01.541
It didn't happen,

891
00:25:01.561 --> 00:25:02.201
so I had to leave.

892
00:25:03.208 --> 00:25:03.508
And

893
00:25:03.989 --> 00:25:05.478
I went to Chelsea.

894
00:25:05.479 --> 00:25:06.159
A year later,

895
00:25:06.199 --> 00:25:06.439
you know,

896
00:25:06.479 --> 00:25:07.740
I got injured in Chelsea.

897
00:25:07.741 --> 00:25:08.341
A year later,

898
00:25:08.381 --> 00:25:09.282
when I recovered,

899
00:25:09.402 --> 00:25:11.271
I wanted to go on loan.

900
00:25:11.311 --> 00:25:14.274
And I don't think even that nobody knows.

901
00:25:14.454 --> 00:25:15.255
In the end,

902
00:25:15.275 --> 00:25:16.215
I signed for Arsenal,

903
00:25:16.275 --> 00:25:19.178
but I was very close to signing for Liverpool.

904
00:25:20.406 --> 00:25:21.667
To go back to Liverpool,

905
00:25:21.687 --> 00:25:22.628
we agreed everything.

906
00:25:22.688 --> 00:25:23.649
In the last minute,

907
00:25:23.689 --> 00:25:25.491
I don't know,

908
00:25:25.492 --> 00:25:27.052
I was on the way to Liverpool in the car,

909
00:25:27.212 --> 00:25:28.213
and the agent told me,

910
00:25:28.233 --> 00:25:28.393
look,

911
00:25:28.433 --> 00:25:28.673
Yossi,

912
00:25:28.714 --> 00:25:31.016
I think they're going to sign in the last minute.

913
00:25:31.788 --> 00:25:32.409
Some other player,

914
00:25:32.469 --> 00:25:33.049
Craig Bellamy.

915
00:25:34.161 --> 00:25:38.344
So maybe it's not a good idea that you will drive to Liverpool and then we will stack.

916
00:25:38.364 --> 00:25:39.845
It was the last day of the transfer.

917
00:25:40.489 --> 00:25:40.629
Yeah.

918
00:25:41.057 --> 00:25:42.438
So I didn't want to take the risk.

919
00:25:42.498 --> 00:25:42.678
And

920
00:25:43.559 --> 00:25:46.781
Arsene Wenger called me and I went to sign for Arsenal.

921
00:25:47.953 --> 00:25:48.753
Arsene Wenger.

922
00:25:48.934 --> 00:25:51.463
That's a legend of the game as well.

923
00:25:51.843 --> 00:25:51.963
Yeah,

924
00:25:51.964 --> 00:25:52.343
of course.

925
00:25:52.344 --> 00:25:54.365
I had the privilege to play for Rafa,

926
00:25:54.585 --> 00:25:55.325
for Wenger,

927
00:25:55.345 --> 00:25:56.006
for Ancelotti,

928
00:25:56.426 --> 00:25:58.407
for Alan Pagio and Carbisley.

929
00:25:58.487 --> 00:25:59.948
So be cautious.

930
00:26:00.576 --> 00:26:01.837
Different style of managers.

931
00:26:02.318 --> 00:26:02.698
Different,

932
00:26:02.878 --> 00:26:03.238
yeah.

933
00:26:03.338 --> 00:26:05.744
Each one has his own mind,

934
00:26:06.425 --> 00:26:07.686
how you prepare a game,

935
00:26:07.966 --> 00:26:09.067
tactically different.

936
00:26:10.211 --> 00:26:10.792
But it was good.

937
00:26:12.905 --> 00:26:13.585
And obviously,

938
00:26:14.126 --> 00:26:14.426
who would

939
00:26:14.766 --> 00:26:16.948
Ancelotti be the manager at Chelsea at that point?

940
00:26:18.401 --> 00:26:18.921
I was going to say,

941
00:26:18.981 --> 00:26:19.582
was it Mourinho?

942
00:26:19.942 --> 00:26:20.943
It wasn't Ancelotti.

943
00:26:20.944 --> 00:26:21.063
No,

944
00:26:21.083 --> 00:26:21.203
no,

945
00:26:21.263 --> 00:26:22.104
Ancelotti.

946
00:26:22.924 --> 00:26:24.426
Chelsea just won a double,

947
00:26:24.427 --> 00:26:25.106
if I'm not wrong.

948
00:26:25.486 --> 00:26:27.208
And I just signed with them.

949
00:26:28.080 --> 00:26:32.824
We finished second and I think we lost in the Champions League against United,

950
00:26:32.844 --> 00:26:33.605
if I'm not wrong.

951
00:26:34.101 --> 00:26:36.984
And they decided to depart with Archelotti.

952
00:26:37.772 --> 00:26:40.234
And then Villas-Boas came and I decided to leave alone.

953
00:26:41.159 --> 00:26:42.660
I've got a question for you.

954
00:26:42.661 --> 00:26:47.928
I've always wanted to ask someone who's involved at Chelsea.

955
00:26:47.929 --> 00:26:51.547
When you're at the club or negotiating your contract,

956
00:26:52.027 --> 00:26:54.989
how involved is Abramovich in these conversations?

957
00:26:55.029 --> 00:26:57.692
Is he a big part of that or was he a big part of that?

958
00:26:58.908 --> 00:26:59.889
Of course he's the main man,

959
00:26:59.969 --> 00:27:02.531
but he doesn't speak too much,

960
00:27:02.671 --> 00:27:02.932
you know,

961
00:27:03.704 --> 00:27:04.285
a few words,

962
00:27:04.345 --> 00:27:06.246
but of course he's in all the meetings,

963
00:27:06.386 --> 00:27:07.767
but he had his own people,

964
00:27:07.768 --> 00:27:08.067
you know,

965
00:27:08.988 --> 00:27:09.689
Eugene and

966
00:27:10.650 --> 00:27:14.849
Marina, the world's strongest guys in Chelsea,

967
00:27:14.929 --> 00:27:16.830
they do sit with you about the contract,

968
00:27:16.870 --> 00:27:17.731
about everything,

969
00:27:17.791 --> 00:27:20.809
but Roman is there and gives the last okay,

970
00:27:20.869 --> 00:27:21.129
you know,

971
00:27:21.389 --> 00:27:21.910
all the time,

972
00:27:22.130 --> 00:27:22.550
yes or no,

973
00:27:22.610 --> 00:27:23.891
he's the boss.

974
00:27:24.892 --> 00:27:31.717
Like this or like that?

975
00:27:31.777 --> 00:27:32.017
For me,

976
00:27:32.018 --> 00:27:32.630
it's like that.

977
00:27:32.631 --> 00:27:32.870
Like this.

978
00:27:32.871 --> 00:27:33.190
He did that for me.

979
00:27:33.191 --> 00:27:35.752
It was great to know big players,

980
00:27:35.832 --> 00:27:36.352
Dress Room,

981
00:27:36.673 --> 00:27:37.193
Lampard,

982
00:27:37.353 --> 00:27:37.854
John Terry,

983
00:27:38.990 --> 00:27:39.391
Drogba,

984
00:27:39.451 --> 00:27:40.331
these kind of players.

985
00:27:40.391 --> 00:27:42.633
It was amazing also to share with them the Dress Room.

986
00:27:43.557 --> 00:27:44.158
Unfortunately,

987
00:27:44.318 --> 00:27:48.848
I didn't feel that because of my injury the first season,

988
00:27:48.928 --> 00:27:51.050
although Ancelotti told me I would play a lot for him.

989
00:27:51.678 --> 00:27:54.120
I played two games and then I did the injury for six months.

990
00:27:54.600 --> 00:28:00.709
Achilles the first and only injury of my career I came back end of the season but then they sacked

991
00:28:01.637 --> 00:28:15.867
Ancelotti and I felt I wanted to go to another club to play more and I signed for Arsenal you know I was lucky also that Wenger came for me yeah and who were the big names at Arsenal at that time?

992
00:28:16.067 --> 00:28:21.447
Robin van Persie Aaron Ramsey Rosicky Arteta we signed together me,

993
00:28:21.628 --> 00:28:22.248
Arteta you

994
00:28:22.576 --> 00:28:24.037
A few more players.

995
00:28:24.077 --> 00:28:24.757
If you remember,

996
00:28:25.645 --> 00:28:27.166
Arsenal lost 8-2,

997
00:28:27.386 --> 00:28:28.066
if I'm not wrong,

998
00:28:28.067 --> 00:28:28.627
at Otrath.

999
00:28:29.235 --> 00:28:29.375
Oh,

1000
00:28:29.455 --> 00:28:30.195
yeah,

1001
00:28:30.196 --> 00:28:30.395
Yeah,

1002
00:28:30.515 --> 00:28:32.916
so we signed the day after or something like that.

1003
00:28:32.976 --> 00:28:34.117
We had to sign a few players.

1004
00:28:34.157 --> 00:28:35.237
They had to sign a few players.

1005
00:28:35.982 --> 00:28:36.562
I was lucky.

1006
00:28:36.742 --> 00:28:37.602
They called me,

1007
00:28:38.022 --> 00:28:38.463
Arteta.

1008
00:28:39.015 --> 00:28:41.456
A few more players and we did a great season.

1009
00:28:41.516 --> 00:28:42.276
We finished third,

1010
00:28:43.040 --> 00:28:43.361
you know,

1011
00:28:43.961 --> 00:28:45.281
went straight to the Champions League.

1012
00:28:45.282 --> 00:28:47.374
It was a good season and I enjoyed a lot.

1013
00:28:48.510 --> 00:28:48.991
Rosicky,

1014
00:28:49.171 --> 00:28:49.631
Walcott,

1015
00:28:49.811 --> 00:28:50.091
you know,

1016
00:28:50.271 --> 00:28:51.112
a lot of good players.

1017
00:28:51.672 --> 00:28:51.892
Yeah.

1018
00:28:52.608 --> 00:28:56.829
And then you obviously went on loan again back to West Ham.

1019
00:28:58.209 --> 00:28:58.350
Yeah,

1020
00:28:59.158 --> 00:29:00.038
for a short while.

1021
00:29:00.039 --> 00:29:00.278
You know,

1022
00:29:01.878 --> 00:29:02.239
of course,

1023
00:29:02.240 --> 00:29:02.879
I wanted to play.

1024
00:29:02.919 --> 00:29:04.439
I went and who was the coach there?

1025
00:29:04.440 --> 00:29:04.699
You know,

1026
00:29:04.879 --> 00:29:05.640
Sam Aronais.

1027
00:29:06.436 --> 00:29:08.396
I didn't sign for him when I was at Bolton.

1028
00:29:11.189 --> 00:29:12.209
You know,

1029
00:29:12.210 --> 00:29:14.710
it was always nice to come back to West Ham.

1030
00:29:14.790 --> 00:29:20.352
But almost before January or a few weeks before,

1031
00:29:20.392 --> 00:29:20.752
they

1032
00:29:20.972 --> 00:29:27.034
bad tackling at Newcastle and I had to go for treatment at Chelsea for a few weeks and we

1033
00:29:27.554 --> 00:29:31.091
January arrived and who arrived to Liverpool?

1034
00:29:31.511 --> 00:29:32.131
Rafa Benitez.

1035
00:29:32.611 --> 00:29:32.831
Sorry,

1036
00:29:32.832 --> 00:29:33.291
to Chelsea.

1037
00:29:33.391 --> 00:29:34.092
Rafa Benitez.

1038
00:29:34.172 --> 00:29:35.640
Jeez.

1039
00:29:35.641 --> 00:29:36.420
And Rafa told me,

1040
00:29:36.500 --> 00:29:36.700
look,

1041
00:29:36.960 --> 00:29:39.161
I don't want you to go back to West Ham.

1042
00:29:39.521 --> 00:29:41.822
I want you to stay for Chelsea and to play.

1043
00:29:42.538 --> 00:29:43.778
And I didn't know in the beginning.

1044
00:29:43.779 --> 00:29:44.018
I said,

1045
00:29:44.038 --> 00:29:44.158
look,

1046
00:29:44.159 --> 00:29:44.679
I want to play.

1047
00:29:44.680 --> 00:29:44.919
He said,

1048
00:29:44.939 --> 00:29:45.359
don't worry.

1049
00:29:46.403 --> 00:29:47.483
Because I came back to train.

1050
00:29:47.484 --> 00:29:48.804
He told me I'm good in training.

1051
00:29:49.104 --> 00:29:50.164
He wants me to stay there.

1052
00:29:50.601 --> 00:29:52.090
So I stayed with the Wichels in the end.

1053
00:29:52.150 --> 00:29:52.391
You know,

1054
00:29:52.412 --> 00:29:52.915
I played the

1055
00:29:55.673 --> 00:30:01.545
many more games than I thought that you would let me play you know so it was good we won the

1056
00:30:02.645 --> 00:30:11.022
Europa League I didn't play in the final but I played all the way in the groups and everything so it was also a good experience we won the Europa League with Chelsea when

1057
00:30:11.442 --> 00:30:21.012
Rafa was the coach so another trophy another trophy in a bag yeah not bad after I missed the FA Cup final you know

1058
00:30:21.292 --> 00:30:24.053
This was the trophy I felt already in my hands.

1059
00:30:25.674 --> 00:30:26.775
But Stevie took it from me.

1060
00:30:27.355 --> 00:30:27.595
Yeah.

1061
00:30:28.716 --> 00:30:28.836
No,

1062
00:30:28.976 --> 00:30:30.437
that was a mad game,

1063
00:30:30.477 --> 00:30:30.717
that.

1064
00:30:30.937 --> 00:30:31.157
Yeah,

1065
00:30:31.158 --> 00:30:32.490
it was a mad game.

1066
00:30:32.491 --> 00:30:35.331
You stayed in London and went to QPR.

1067
00:30:37.847 --> 00:30:38.027
Yeah,

1068
00:30:38.107 --> 00:30:38.428
actually,

1069
00:30:38.448 --> 00:30:39.788
I finished the contract.

1070
00:30:39.808 --> 00:30:41.669
I went back to Israel just for...

1071
00:30:43.286 --> 00:30:44.506
And I was looking for an option.

1072
00:30:44.526 --> 00:30:45.987
I had the offers from Spain.

1073
00:30:46.007 --> 00:30:47.428
I almost agreed to move to Spain,

1074
00:30:47.488 --> 00:30:47.648
but...

1075
00:30:47.988 --> 00:30:49.089
Also because of my kids,

1076
00:30:49.149 --> 00:30:50.770
they really wanted to come back to England.

1077
00:30:50.790 --> 00:30:51.450
So I had to stay.

1078
00:30:51.550 --> 00:30:52.931
I stayed a few months without the team.

1079
00:30:53.703 --> 00:30:54.624
And my agent told me,

1080
00:30:54.644 --> 00:30:54.884
Yossi,

1081
00:30:54.964 --> 00:30:55.965
let's go to QPR.

1082
00:30:56.265 --> 00:30:57.966
Ari Redknapp is a great coach.

1083
00:30:57.986 --> 00:30:59.187
He's a friend of my agent.

1084
00:30:59.843 --> 00:31:02.044
And I decided to go for a few months.

1085
00:31:03.613 --> 00:31:04.193
We did well.

1086
00:31:04.213 --> 00:31:05.134
The club went to the

1087
00:31:06.355 --> 00:31:06.855
Premier League.

1088
00:31:07.767 --> 00:31:08.588
And after that,

1089
00:31:08.608 --> 00:31:08.868
you know,

1090
00:31:09.508 --> 00:31:11.610
I had an offer from MLS in Israel.

1091
00:31:11.650 --> 00:31:15.512
And I sat with my family and we decided to come back to the club.

1092
00:31:15.988 --> 00:31:17.269
that I played before in Israel,

1093
00:31:17.309 --> 00:31:17.950
Maccabi Haifa.

1094
00:31:19.031 --> 00:31:19.971
And actually,

1095
00:31:20.332 --> 00:31:22.726
I thought I would finish my career there,

1096
00:31:22.766 --> 00:31:24.688
but I kept going to play for five more years.

1097
00:31:25.304 --> 00:31:26.906
So I played five more years in Israel,

1098
00:31:26.926 --> 00:31:29.928
and then I retired in a club that's called Beta Jerusalem,

1099
00:31:29.968 --> 00:31:30.749
also a great club.

1100
00:31:31.454 --> 00:31:35.801
So I was privileged also to play until I was 39.

1101
00:31:35.901 --> 00:31:37.142
So it was really great for me.

1102
00:31:37.143 --> 00:31:38.731
Yeah.

1103
00:31:38.991 --> 00:31:42.255
And how was the body holding up at 39?

1104
00:31:42.256 --> 00:31:43.235
It was really good,

1105
00:31:43.255 --> 00:31:43.496
you know.

1106
00:31:43.676 --> 00:31:46.883
I felt that I can continue.

1107
00:31:47.364 --> 00:31:48.685
Also from Betal Jerusalem,

1108
00:31:48.785 --> 00:31:49.406
from other clubs,

1109
00:31:49.407 --> 00:31:51.968
they offered me also two more years contract to play until 41.

1110
00:31:52.708 --> 00:31:52.929
But

1111
00:31:53.349 --> 00:31:57.133
Jerusalem gave me an offer that I will be the sport director at the end of the season.

1112
00:31:57.845 --> 00:32:04.027
And I decided this is the moment to step down as a player and take the club to another level.

1113
00:32:04.087 --> 00:32:05.508
And I decided straight to do it.

1114
00:32:05.528 --> 00:32:07.110
The day after I retired,

1115
00:32:07.210 --> 00:32:08.671
I became the sport director.

1116
00:32:10.215 --> 00:32:10.416
Yeah.

1117
00:32:11.500 --> 00:32:13.261
I had to take this decision.

1118
00:32:13.281 --> 00:32:13.882
I told myself,

1119
00:32:13.883 --> 00:32:14.002
OK,

1120
00:32:14.003 --> 00:32:15.262
I will play one more year.

1121
00:32:15.282 --> 00:32:15.723
Maybe yes,

1122
00:32:15.783 --> 00:32:16.183
maybe not.

1123
00:32:16.523 --> 00:32:19.645
I don't know if I will have another offer to be straight sport director.

1124
00:32:20.357 --> 00:32:23.279
So I took it and it was a good decision also for me.

1125
00:32:24.519 --> 00:32:24.739
Yeah.

1126
00:32:25.179 --> 00:32:28.861
And you obviously want to touch on your international career as well.

1127
00:32:28.962 --> 00:32:33.552
You obviously had 100 plus caps for...

1128
00:32:33.652 --> 00:32:34.353
102.

1129
00:32:34.354 --> 00:32:35.953
I had the most caps as an Israeli player.

1130
00:32:36.474 --> 00:32:36.674
Yeah.

1131
00:32:38.991 --> 00:32:39.351
Again...

1132
00:32:39.751 --> 00:32:39.992
maybe

1133
00:32:41.480 --> 00:32:44.722
You obviously won something at under-16 level as well,

1134
00:32:44.802 --> 00:32:45.002
right?

1135
00:32:45.402 --> 00:32:45.962
Yeah,

1136
00:32:45.963 --> 00:32:46.162
under-16.

1137
00:32:46.222 --> 00:32:47.903
I was standing in Europe,

1138
00:32:48.043 --> 00:32:50.084
the biggest achievement of Israel.

1139
00:32:51.020 --> 00:32:54.310
And I was eight years the captain of the Israel national team.

1140
00:32:54.690 --> 00:32:55.490
And where I grew up,

1141
00:32:56.178 --> 00:32:57.719
I'm sure you've never heard about this,

1142
00:32:57.779 --> 00:32:59.320
but it's a city called Dimona.

1143
00:32:59.840 --> 00:33:02.061
Dimona is a very small city in the desert,

1144
00:33:02.081 --> 00:33:03.121
in the middle of nowhere.

1145
00:33:04.402 --> 00:33:05.322
So with the family,

1146
00:33:05.382 --> 00:33:06.903
they didn't have any money.

1147
00:33:07.003 --> 00:33:08.443
I didn't have any money for years,

1148
00:33:08.543 --> 00:33:09.424
even to go to the bus.

1149
00:33:10.880 --> 00:33:11.000
So

1150
00:33:11.881 --> 00:33:13.401
I grew up from a place that,

1151
00:33:13.961 --> 00:33:14.462
as I said,

1152
00:33:14.742 --> 00:33:15.702
no one heard about this.

1153
00:33:15.802 --> 00:33:19.516
And to think that I will one day be the Israeli captain,

1154
00:33:19.576 --> 00:33:24.326
to go with the Hamban and with the national anthem and lead everyone,

1155
00:33:25.314 --> 00:33:27.435
it's beyond your dreams.

1156
00:33:27.775 --> 00:33:30.016
It's amazing to play for the national team,

1157
00:33:30.056 --> 00:33:32.777
to get the chance to be the first team when I was 17,

1158
00:33:32.857 --> 00:33:33.497
18 years old.

1159
00:33:34.094 --> 00:33:34.654
And since then,

1160
00:33:34.694 --> 00:33:37.095
I didn't leave the national team until I was 39.

1161
00:33:37.096 --> 00:33:38.495
I played over 20 years.

1162
00:33:38.496 --> 00:33:39.796
And I think also I was the most...

1163
00:33:40.208 --> 00:33:40.749
as I told you,

1164
00:33:40.769 --> 00:33:41.229
most cars,

1165
00:33:41.309 --> 00:33:43.583
but even the period of time,

1166
00:33:43.603 --> 00:33:47.645
I think I was the player that played the war in the national team more than everyone,

1167
00:33:48.622 --> 00:33:49.403
over 20 years.

1168
00:33:50.563 --> 00:33:51.444
So it was amazing.

1169
00:33:51.464 --> 00:33:55.246
Unbelievable.

1170
00:33:55.286 --> 00:33:55.926
Massive story,

1171
00:33:56.086 --> 00:33:56.266
big,

1172
00:33:56.687 --> 00:33:57.884
unbelievable.

1173
00:33:57.904 --> 00:34:01.246
That's why I told you we have to have him on the podcast.

1174
00:34:01.446 --> 00:34:01.786
Great,

1175
00:34:02.127 --> 00:34:02.747
I scored.

1176
00:34:04.296 --> 00:34:04.716
I tell you,

1177
00:34:05.097 --> 00:34:06.157
in the last two years,

1178
00:34:06.318 --> 00:34:09.340
I didn't speak even one word with the press.

1179
00:34:10.492 --> 00:34:14.694
And I'm sure even they will hear something and they will know some headlines that I speak with you,

1180
00:34:14.734 --> 00:34:15.554
they will kill me now.

1181
00:34:15.735 --> 00:34:16.755
Why you don't speak with us?

1182
00:34:17.775 --> 00:34:18.596
Every day they try.

1183
00:34:18.656 --> 00:34:19.716
Let's do an interview.

1184
00:34:19.756 --> 00:34:19.876
No,

1185
00:34:19.996 --> 00:34:20.117
no.

1186
00:34:23.246 --> 00:34:24.126
The answer is really,

1187
00:34:24.306 --> 00:34:24.927
really simple.

1188
00:34:25.691 --> 00:34:29.332
Just say I spoke with Greg because he's a good friend of mine and a very honest guy.

1189
00:34:32.922 --> 00:34:35.223
What I was going to ask you was,

1190
00:34:36.043 --> 00:34:38.104
obviously you played until you were 39.

1191
00:34:39.645 --> 00:34:41.449
What was your training regime like?

1192
00:34:42.050 --> 00:34:42.351
Obviously,

1193
00:34:42.772 --> 00:34:46.942
you can't train at 39 the same way you were at 29,

1194
00:34:47.083 --> 00:34:47.624
or did you?

1195
00:34:47.985 --> 00:34:49.068
I'm just curious because...

1196
00:34:49.665 --> 00:34:50.846
I train every day the same.

1197
00:34:50.966 --> 00:34:51.827
I train every day.

1198
00:34:51.867 --> 00:34:54.290
I didn't make a discount.

1199
00:34:54.291 --> 00:34:55.191
I train like everyone,

1200
00:34:55.451 --> 00:34:58.321
but the only difference is your body,

1201
00:34:58.642 --> 00:34:59.202
after a game,

1202
00:34:59.203 --> 00:35:00.323
when you play 90 minutes,

1203
00:35:01.348 --> 00:35:04.291
you need a little bit more treatment to recover,

1204
00:35:04.811 --> 00:35:09.596
to take some things that you never take as a younger player,

1205
00:35:10.452 --> 00:35:11.153
just to recover,

1206
00:35:11.213 --> 00:35:15.125
because you felt it will take me a little bit more to be sharp again.

1207
00:35:16.141 --> 00:35:16.401
One day,

1208
00:35:16.481 --> 00:35:17.081
two more days.

1209
00:35:17.101 --> 00:35:18.222
So in the training,

1210
00:35:19.002 --> 00:35:19.762
I try to train,

1211
00:35:19.842 --> 00:35:22.703
but day after or two days after,

1212
00:35:22.803 --> 00:35:26.924
I keep myself a little bit just to get the feeling again that

1213
00:35:28.264 --> 00:35:32.146
I'm not that stiff and heavy and I can play again the next game.

1214
00:35:32.966 --> 00:35:34.906
But I tried every training,

1215
00:35:34.946 --> 00:35:35.426
every game,

1216
00:35:35.467 --> 00:35:38.487
I tried to give everything to run as long as possible,

1217
00:35:38.527 --> 00:35:39.188
even in the games.

1218
00:35:39.676 --> 00:35:42.397
I was 39 and we had the data of the GPS.

1219
00:35:42.953 --> 00:35:43.833
I always was...

1220
00:35:44.189 --> 00:35:45.270
First or second in the team,

1221
00:35:45.271 --> 00:35:49.083
it doesn't matter if I play with 20 years old or 25.

1222
00:35:49.084 --> 00:35:50.104
They put always the least.

1223
00:35:50.344 --> 00:35:50.484
And,

1224
00:35:50.684 --> 00:35:50.924
you know,

1225
00:35:50.925 --> 00:35:51.764
the coach always said,

1226
00:35:52.745 --> 00:35:53.745
give me as an example.

1227
00:35:53.785 --> 00:35:53.925
Look,

1228
00:35:53.985 --> 00:35:55.986
Yossi is almost 39,

1229
00:35:55.987 --> 00:35:56.987
runs more than everyone,

1230
00:35:57.087 --> 00:35:58.207
sprints more than everyone.

1231
00:35:58.267 --> 00:35:58.748
You know,

1232
00:35:58.868 --> 00:36:02.893
it was built in from England because I learned it in England.

1233
00:36:03.450 --> 00:36:04.050
And you cannot,

1234
00:36:04.110 --> 00:36:04.370
you know,

1235
00:36:05.391 --> 00:36:07.552
it was in my mind to do it every game,

1236
00:36:07.592 --> 00:36:09.716
every training to be successful.

1237
00:36:10.941 --> 00:36:11.161
Yeah.

1238
00:36:11.625 --> 00:36:14.406
And your take that England is going to get the credit for that?

1239
00:36:14.407 --> 00:36:15.826
Because obviously you played in Spain,

1240
00:36:16.598 --> 00:36:17.619
you played in England,

1241
00:36:17.899 --> 00:36:18.959
and obviously back home.

1242
00:36:19.279 --> 00:36:20.579
Would you say England was the...

1243
00:36:21.272 --> 00:36:21.392
No,

1244
00:36:21.412 --> 00:36:21.532
no,

1245
00:36:21.592 --> 00:36:23.632
England is the best league in the world,

1246
00:36:23.633 --> 00:36:24.813
the best culture in the world.

1247
00:36:25.313 --> 00:36:25.573
For me,

1248
00:36:26.293 --> 00:36:27.273
one of the best countries.

1249
00:36:27.313 --> 00:36:27.533
You know,

1250
00:36:27.534 --> 00:36:28.594
I love the people in England.

1251
00:36:29.446 --> 00:36:29.966
But for me,

1252
00:36:29.967 --> 00:36:30.846
it's the best league.

1253
00:36:32.298 --> 00:36:32.538
After,

1254
00:36:32.559 --> 00:36:32.779
you know,

1255
00:36:32.780 --> 00:36:35.939
it was very difficult for me to be in the rhythm in the first two months,

1256
00:36:36.019 --> 00:36:36.460
three months.

1257
00:36:37.104 --> 00:36:40.765
But I understand what I need to do to be successful.

1258
00:36:40.965 --> 00:36:42.545
I worked hard like everyone,

1259
00:36:42.546 --> 00:36:42.766
you know,

1260
00:36:42.846 --> 00:36:43.526
even harder.

1261
00:36:44.266 --> 00:36:44.786
And this was,

1262
00:36:45.086 --> 00:36:45.426
I think,

1263
00:36:45.866 --> 00:36:47.667
this is why I became a better player.

1264
00:36:47.687 --> 00:36:50.204
This is why I arrived to big clubs,

1265
00:36:50.364 --> 00:36:52.180
only because I,

1266
00:36:52.240 --> 00:36:52.480
you know,

1267
00:36:52.500 --> 00:36:54.981
I came to England and I learned to work harder.

1268
00:36:55.021 --> 00:36:55.261
You know,

1269
00:36:55.341 --> 00:36:55.701
of course,

1270
00:36:56.081 --> 00:36:56.581
in Israel,

1271
00:36:56.601 --> 00:36:57.241
I went to Spain,

1272
00:36:57.621 --> 00:36:59.162
I worked harder than I worked in Israel.

1273
00:36:59.222 --> 00:37:00.642
But then I left to England.

1274
00:37:01.182 --> 00:37:05.364
I understand that I need to work much harder than in Spain to be successful.

1275
00:37:05.972 --> 00:37:09.393
So I think this is what made me a better player.

1276
00:37:10.661 --> 00:37:12.663
Gave me the possibilities to play for big clubs.

1277
00:37:14.707 --> 00:37:17.625
And obviously you played with a lot of teams,

1278
00:37:17.685 --> 00:37:20.355
but I've got some questions here.

1279
00:37:22.243 --> 00:37:24.625
Who is the best player you ever played with?

1280
00:37:24.626 --> 00:37:26.386
I know it's probably an unfair question.

1281
00:37:26.406 --> 00:37:26.526
No,

1282
00:37:28.548 --> 00:37:29.188
it's easy for me.

1283
00:37:29.268 --> 00:37:30.009
The answer is easy.

1284
00:37:30.109 --> 00:37:31.610
I played with a lot of big,

1285
00:37:31.690 --> 00:37:32.190
big players,

1286
00:37:32.371 --> 00:37:32.871
big names.

1287
00:37:33.559 --> 00:37:35.921
But the best player ever is Steven Gerrard.

1288
00:37:37.245 --> 00:37:39.147
Because when you look at the player,

1289
00:37:39.148 --> 00:37:40.008
he's a complete player.

1290
00:37:40.009 --> 00:37:40.228
You know,

1291
00:37:40.268 --> 00:37:41.069
he does everything.

1292
00:37:42.090 --> 00:37:43.050
He will tackle on the

1293
00:37:43.751 --> 00:37:45.553
16-yard box and 10 seconds later,

1294
00:37:45.573 --> 00:37:46.794
he will score a winner from

1295
00:37:47.354 --> 00:37:48.976
25 yards to the top corner.

1296
00:37:49.760 --> 00:37:50.040
You know,

1297
00:37:50.100 --> 00:37:50.641
when you need him,

1298
00:37:50.661 --> 00:37:51.422
he's always there,

1299
00:37:51.622 --> 00:37:51.942
left,

1300
00:37:52.022 --> 00:37:52.322
right,

1301
00:37:52.443 --> 00:37:52.663
head,

1302
00:37:53.567 --> 00:37:54.068
to fight,

1303
00:37:54.328 --> 00:37:54.868
to tackle.

1304
00:37:55.397 --> 00:37:56.718
He was the complete player for me.

1305
00:37:57.278 --> 00:37:57.419
And,

1306
00:37:57.939 --> 00:37:58.299
of course,

1307
00:37:58.300 --> 00:37:59.781
there were a lot of other players,

1308
00:37:59.801 --> 00:38:00.081
you know,

1309
00:38:00.301 --> 00:38:00.922
Fernando Torres,

1310
00:38:00.942 --> 00:38:01.582
Xabi Alonso,

1311
00:38:02.543 --> 00:38:03.584
Drogba,

1312
00:38:04.104 --> 00:38:04.425
Lampa.

1313
00:38:05.261 --> 00:38:05.862
Evan Percy,

1314
00:38:05.982 --> 00:38:08.725
I think he did his best season in Arsenal when I was there.

1315
00:38:08.726 --> 00:38:10.026
He scored 30 goals in the league.

1316
00:38:10.582 --> 00:38:10.702
So

1317
00:38:11.503 --> 00:38:13.905
I was privileged to play with a lot of big players,

1318
00:38:13.985 --> 00:38:16.107
but definitely Steven Gerrard is the best.

1319
00:38:17.075 --> 00:38:19.998
And who is the best one you played against?

1320
00:38:22.332 --> 00:38:23.773
I think you said the name before,

1321
00:38:24.514 --> 00:38:25.274
Zinedine Zidane.

1322
00:38:26.223 --> 00:38:26.543
I think

1323
00:38:27.084 --> 00:38:29.226
I played against him with the national team a few times.

1324
00:38:29.306 --> 00:38:29.947
I have his shirt,

1325
00:38:29.987 --> 00:38:30.967
we changed shirts also.

1326
00:38:33.449 --> 00:38:37.912
Zidane and Ronaldinho in Spain were at their best when I played against Barcelona.

1327
00:38:39.965 --> 00:38:42.066
You can say Zidane and even Ronaldo,

1328
00:38:42.086 --> 00:38:42.726
the Brazilian,

1329
00:38:42.826 --> 00:38:43.367
number nine,

1330
00:38:43.467 --> 00:38:44.387
he played in Real Madrid.

1331
00:38:44.427 --> 00:38:45.560
You have two,

1332
00:38:45.620 --> 00:38:46.360
three big,

1333
00:38:46.440 --> 00:38:47.321
big top players.

1334
00:38:47.461 --> 00:38:50.691
Yeah,

1335
00:38:50.711 --> 00:38:52.212
Ronaldinho was always my favourite.

1336
00:38:52.213 --> 00:38:54.060
Yeah,

1337
00:38:54.180 --> 00:38:55.902
Ronaldinho was unbelievable,

1338
00:38:55.903 --> 00:38:58.059
but Zidane was unbelievable.

1339
00:38:59.303 --> 00:39:01.424
I told him one day when I played against him,

1340
00:39:01.624 --> 00:39:01.905
I said,

1341
00:39:01.965 --> 00:39:02.285
Zidane.

1342
00:39:02.505 --> 00:39:02.725
Gigi,

1343
00:39:03.145 --> 00:39:04.006
could you walk away?

1344
00:39:04.086 --> 00:39:04.907
Could you walk away from me,

1345
00:39:04.967 --> 00:39:05.187
please?

1346
00:39:05.188 --> 00:39:07.368
He was laughing.

1347
00:39:07.369 --> 00:39:08.829
It's better for you that he played for that.

1348
00:39:09.009 --> 00:39:09.970
Oh,

1349
00:39:09.971 --> 00:39:10.870
what a player.

1350
00:39:10.970 --> 00:39:12.191
He was unbelievable.

1351
00:39:12.192 --> 00:39:12.291
Yeah,

1352
00:39:12.292 --> 00:39:12.671
he was unbelievable.

1353
00:39:12.672 --> 00:39:13.191
Unstoppable.

1354
00:39:13.712 --> 00:39:14.052
Honestly.

1355
00:39:15.113 --> 00:39:15.993
Technically,

1356
00:39:16.053 --> 00:39:16.473
physically.

1357
00:39:16.914 --> 00:39:17.034
No,

1358
00:39:17.054 --> 00:39:17.174
no.

1359
00:39:17.414 --> 00:39:17.794
Physically,

1360
00:39:17.795 --> 00:39:18.895
he was tall.

1361
00:39:18.896 --> 00:39:19.475
He was strong.

1362
00:39:19.995 --> 00:39:21.096
But what he did with the ball,

1363
00:39:21.116 --> 00:39:22.257
it was like with a glue.

1364
00:39:23.233 --> 00:39:26.055
The ball with glue to his legs.

1365
00:39:26.095 --> 00:39:26.835
It's unbelievable.

1366
00:39:26.836 --> 00:39:29.760
Yeah.

1367
00:39:29.761 --> 00:39:30.901
I was lucky to play against him.

1368
00:39:31.665 --> 00:39:31.846
Yeah,

1369
00:39:31.926 --> 00:39:32.046
no,

1370
00:39:32.086 --> 00:39:33.568
he was a phenomenal player.

1371
00:39:34.157 --> 00:39:36.737
Who was your funniest teammate?

1372
00:39:36.817 --> 00:39:37.078
Obviously,

1373
00:39:37.079 --> 00:39:37.779
you played again,

1374
00:39:37.839 --> 00:39:38.780
but who was the funniest?

1375
00:39:38.841 --> 00:39:39.061
Easy,

1376
00:39:39.141 --> 00:39:39.321
easy.

1377
00:39:39.421 --> 00:39:39.822
Crouchy,

1378
00:39:39.942 --> 00:39:40.343
Crouchy.

1379
00:39:40.344 --> 00:39:41.545
Crouchy,

1380
00:39:41.685 --> 00:39:41.946
man.

1381
00:39:42.246 --> 00:39:42.647
Good job.

1382
00:39:42.707 --> 00:39:43.027
Yeah,

1383
00:39:43.167 --> 00:39:44.730
he was the clown of the dressing room.

1384
00:39:44.810 --> 00:39:45.411
Until today,

1385
00:39:45.451 --> 00:39:46.192
you see.

1386
00:39:46.894 --> 00:39:47.154
In the

1387
00:39:48.115 --> 00:39:48.675
Legend game,

1388
00:39:48.695 --> 00:39:52.377
Crouchy is the clown.

1389
00:39:54.121 --> 00:39:54.241
Yeah,

1390
00:39:54.261 --> 00:39:54.541
he's a DJ.

1391
00:39:54.542 --> 00:39:55.762
Penalti was also funny,

1392
00:39:55.842 --> 00:39:56.162
you know,

1393
00:39:56.322 --> 00:40:00.388
but Crouchy was the funniest one for everyone,

1394
00:40:00.389 --> 00:40:00.588
you know.

1395
00:40:00.728 --> 00:40:03.926
Always a good atmosphere in the dressing room because of him.

1396
00:40:07.799 --> 00:40:09.280
Who was the biggest moaner?

1397
00:40:10.020 --> 00:40:10.200
Well,

1398
00:40:10.220 --> 00:40:10.760
his coach.

1399
00:40:11.321 --> 00:40:12.201
His coach now,

1400
00:40:12.202 --> 00:40:12.441
you know,

1401
00:40:12.741 --> 00:40:13.081
Riera.

1402
00:40:13.341 --> 00:40:13.962
Albert Riera.

1403
00:40:15.402 --> 00:40:16.343
I played with him also.

1404
00:40:16.904 --> 00:40:17.884
We played in Liverpool.

1405
00:40:17.885 --> 00:40:18.865
We played in the Legend Cup.

1406
00:40:18.905 --> 00:40:19.105
But

1407
00:40:20.273 --> 00:40:22.075
I don't know how he's the coach now.

1408
00:40:22.095 --> 00:40:23.656
I think he's signed for Belgrade now.

1409
00:40:23.657 --> 00:40:24.196
The Red Star.

1410
00:40:25.117 --> 00:40:25.757
Yeah,

1411
00:40:25.758 --> 00:40:26.938
I spoke with him last week.

1412
00:40:26.939 --> 00:40:27.979
He should be on the show with us.

1413
00:40:28.019 --> 00:40:32.086
And he's a great candidate.

1414
00:40:32.087 --> 00:40:34.927
He likes to win anything.

1415
00:40:35.188 --> 00:40:35.628
Why then?

1416
00:40:35.748 --> 00:40:36.188
Why this?

1417
00:40:37.113 --> 00:40:37.833
This is the area.

1418
00:40:37.853 --> 00:40:38.574
He's a great guy,

1419
00:40:38.654 --> 00:40:38.854
but...

1420
00:40:40.035 --> 00:40:41.396
Yeah,

1421
00:40:41.636 --> 00:40:42.156
definitely.

1422
00:40:42.637 --> 00:40:43.157
One for you,

1423
00:40:43.158 --> 00:40:44.558
because obviously you were not the...

1424
00:40:44.678 --> 00:41:02.892
biggest built guy who was the strongest guy you come up against there must have been someone in that english premier league where you're like up me well to play against you know well when i play wheat also you know in the training was martin's character you know oh he he was very very strong it was unbelievable and

1425
00:41:03.133 --> 00:41:12.038
when i played against it always was very difficult to play against rio ferdinand when he was uh you know as a center back he's quick he was strong he was

1426
00:41:12.938 --> 00:41:13.118
top,

1427
00:41:13.178 --> 00:41:13.658
top level,

1428
00:41:13.718 --> 00:41:14.458
but in training,

1429
00:41:14.478 --> 00:41:14.759
you know,

1430
00:41:15.059 --> 00:41:15.819
Martin Skelter,

1431
00:41:16.619 --> 00:41:16.859
always,

1432
00:41:16.899 --> 00:41:17.799
like you said to Zidane,

1433
00:41:17.800 --> 00:41:18.860
I always used to tell him,

1434
00:41:19.436 --> 00:41:19.756
Martin,

1435
00:41:20.480 --> 00:41:21.120
don't come to me,

1436
00:41:21.360 --> 00:41:22.241
go to the other side,

1437
00:41:22.281 --> 00:41:22.561
please.

1438
00:41:22.841 --> 00:41:23.621
I'm here with the ball,

1439
00:41:23.641 --> 00:41:24.181
don't touch me,

1440
00:41:24.182 --> 00:41:24.441
you know.

1441
00:41:24.442 --> 00:41:25.922
He's very strong.

1442
00:41:26.522 --> 00:41:28.943
It's very dangerous to be around him.

1443
00:41:30.563 --> 00:41:30.823
Again,

1444
00:41:30.903 --> 00:41:31.383
great guy,

1445
00:41:31.503 --> 00:41:32.664
but he plays so hard and,

1446
00:41:32.824 --> 00:41:33.064
you know,

1447
00:41:33.124 --> 00:41:34.224
strong tackles all the time.

1448
00:41:35.656 --> 00:41:38.517
And you played under a lot of different managers,

1449
00:41:39.077 --> 00:41:40.277
all got their own things,

1450
00:41:40.297 --> 00:41:41.078
as you mentioned earlier.

1451
00:41:41.079 --> 00:41:41.358
Yeah.

1452
00:41:42.154 --> 00:41:43.675
Who is the best manager for you?

1453
00:41:44.671 --> 00:41:45.632
He's very difficult.

1454
00:41:45.633 --> 00:41:45.872
You know,

1455
00:41:45.932 --> 00:41:48.494
I would have to take a little bit from each one,

1456
00:41:48.534 --> 00:41:48.814
you know,

1457
00:41:49.054 --> 00:41:52.276
because like the freedom that I told you and the confidence is

1458
00:41:52.716 --> 00:41:53.376
Asen Wenger.

1459
00:41:54.769 --> 00:41:56.070
Rafa prepared the team,

1460
00:41:56.110 --> 00:41:56.470
I think,

1461
00:41:57.198 --> 00:41:58.899
tactically better than anyone else.

1462
00:42:00.116 --> 00:42:02.385
And combination also,

1463
00:42:02.685 --> 00:42:06.828
one of the nicest men and also always give you a good feeling.

1464
00:42:06.868 --> 00:42:06.988
And,

1465
00:42:07.048 --> 00:42:07.308
you know,

1466
00:42:07.309 --> 00:42:07.808
in training,

1467
00:42:08.949 --> 00:42:10.430
what you are doing is the Ancelotti.

1468
00:42:11.318 --> 00:42:11.558
You know,

1469
00:42:11.618 --> 00:42:12.799
everyone loves Ancelotti,

1470
00:42:12.939 --> 00:42:14.080
even the players who don't play.

1471
00:42:14.896 --> 00:42:15.717
And it's very rare,

1472
00:42:15.857 --> 00:42:16.097
you know,

1473
00:42:16.098 --> 00:42:16.578
in football.

1474
00:42:16.638 --> 00:42:17.558
Because when you don't play,

1475
00:42:17.598 --> 00:42:19.540
a lot of times you moan about the coach,

1476
00:42:19.580 --> 00:42:20.300
you know,

1477
00:42:20.461 --> 00:42:21.201
why he don't play me.

1478
00:42:21.261 --> 00:42:23.002
But with Ancelotti,

1479
00:42:23.042 --> 00:42:24.764
it's always a different feeling.

1480
00:42:24.765 --> 00:42:25.224
He gives you,

1481
00:42:25.624 --> 00:42:26.105
to everyone,

1482
00:42:26.106 --> 00:42:26.705
the same feeling.

1483
00:42:27.085 --> 00:42:31.977
And it's not easy to keep a full dressing room happy.

1484
00:42:32.177 --> 00:42:32.357
And,

1485
00:42:32.697 --> 00:42:32.938
you know,

1486
00:42:32.939 --> 00:42:33.558
they play for you,

1487
00:42:33.618 --> 00:42:34.499
even if they don't start,

1488
00:42:34.500 --> 00:42:35.760
they go in and give everything.

1489
00:42:36.728 --> 00:42:38.549
So I think it's a little bit for Mirvan,

1490
00:42:38.689 --> 00:42:39.310
Alain Pardieu.

1491
00:42:40.082 --> 00:42:42.463
Gave me the confidence my first season at West Ham.

1492
00:42:42.483 --> 00:42:44.843
I had the feeling he believed in me.

1493
00:42:45.284 --> 00:42:46.264
Gave me the freedom also.

1494
00:42:46.364 --> 00:42:47.876
So I appreciate,

1495
00:42:47.877 --> 00:42:48.116
you know,

1496
00:42:49.805 --> 00:42:50.845
for all of them.

1497
00:42:51.145 --> 00:42:52.085
I cannot say one,

1498
00:42:52.165 --> 00:42:52.406
you know,

1499
00:42:52.426 --> 00:42:53.546
that is better than everyone.

1500
00:42:54.014 --> 00:42:54.254
Yeah.

1501
00:42:55.058 --> 00:42:55.178
Oh,

1502
00:42:55.298 --> 00:42:55.758
fair enough.

1503
00:42:55.878 --> 00:42:56.359
Fair enough.

1504
00:42:58.251 --> 00:43:01.672
Who was the most underrated player that you played with?

1505
00:43:02.140 --> 00:43:06.493
Someone who maybe didn't get the coverage from the press?

1506
00:43:07.994 --> 00:43:08.354
It was...

1507
00:43:09.014 --> 00:43:09.174
What?

1508
00:43:09.786 --> 00:43:10.246
In the end,

1509
00:43:10.306 --> 00:43:12.067
he's one of the biggest players in the world,

1510
00:43:12.108 --> 00:43:12.248
yeah.

1511
00:43:12.308 --> 00:43:13.108
But at the moment,

1512
00:43:13.168 --> 00:43:14.649
when I was in Chelsea in the beginning,

1513
00:43:16.542 --> 00:43:19.504
one of the young players who played with me was Kevin De Bruyne.

1514
00:43:21.664 --> 00:43:22.765
And he didn't play.

1515
00:43:24.122 --> 00:43:24.862
Even in training,

1516
00:43:24.882 --> 00:43:25.002
no.

1517
00:43:25.603 --> 00:43:26.303
I went to him,

1518
00:43:26.363 --> 00:43:27.464
I remember I went to him.

1519
00:43:27.504 --> 00:43:27.784
I said,

1520
00:43:27.844 --> 00:43:28.024
look,

1521
00:43:28.424 --> 00:43:29.805
I don't understand how we don't play.

1522
00:43:31.834 --> 00:43:32.094
Okay,

1523
00:43:32.114 --> 00:43:32.614
you are young.

1524
00:43:32.814 --> 00:43:33.595
It doesn't matter.

1525
00:43:33.615 --> 00:43:34.275
You need to play.

1526
00:43:34.976 --> 00:43:38.638
So I think the first few years he was underrated until he proved himself.

1527
00:43:39.502 --> 00:43:43.463
And if I need to think about someone else underrated,

1528
00:43:45.564 --> 00:43:47.264
I don't really have someone.

1529
00:43:49.368 --> 00:43:49.769
West Ham,

1530
00:43:50.169 --> 00:43:51.529
I think they were a few pairs.

1531
00:43:51.530 --> 00:43:51.749
You know,

1532
00:43:51.809 --> 00:43:52.009
Bobby

1533
00:43:52.589 --> 00:43:54.130
Zamora at West Ham,

1534
00:43:54.170 --> 00:43:55.050
I think he was top,

1535
00:43:55.110 --> 00:43:55.830
top striker.

1536
00:43:57.335 --> 00:43:57.635
Maybe,

1537
00:43:58.235 --> 00:43:58.495
you know,

1538
00:43:58.635 --> 00:44:00.055
if it was in those years now,

1539
00:44:00.075 --> 00:44:05.733
he played for big clubs because I never saw a striker with both legs the same,

1540
00:44:05.773 --> 00:44:06.053
left,

1541
00:44:06.133 --> 00:44:06.473
right,

1542
00:44:07.013 --> 00:44:07.574
keep the ball.

1543
00:44:07.575 --> 00:44:08.354
He was very strong.

1544
00:44:08.814 --> 00:44:10.516
Maybe he was a little bit underrated,

1545
00:44:10.517 --> 00:44:10.736
I think.

1546
00:44:10.756 --> 00:44:10.877
Yeah.

1547
00:44:10.897 --> 00:44:12.465
Could be,

1548
00:44:12.466 --> 00:44:12.665
yeah.

1549
00:44:14.403 --> 00:44:18.883
Bobby Zamora was,

1550
00:44:18.884 --> 00:44:18.983
yeah.

1551
00:44:18.984 --> 00:44:21.065
Bobby Zamora was a good big player.

1552
00:44:21.245 --> 00:44:22.347
I like big Bobby Zamora.

1553
00:44:24.232 --> 00:44:30.642
And can you name a player who you would want most beside you in a fight?

1554
00:44:31.699 --> 00:44:32.720
If you were going to battle,

1555
00:44:33.441 --> 00:44:34.602
who would you want beside you?

1556
00:44:38.600 --> 00:44:39.040
Well,

1557
00:44:39.041 --> 00:44:39.240
you know,

1558
00:44:39.260 --> 00:44:40.522
I have to say from the football,

1559
00:44:40.682 --> 00:44:43.224
one of my best friends till today is Fernando Torres.

1560
00:44:44.061 --> 00:44:45.322
We are in a good connection.

1561
00:44:45.362 --> 00:44:46.764
He's one of my best friends.

1562
00:44:46.784 --> 00:44:48.866
And I had also great connection on the pitch.

1563
00:44:49.634 --> 00:44:50.414
But also,

1564
00:44:51.335 --> 00:44:51.875
off the pitch,

1565
00:44:52.495 --> 00:44:55.436
he knows I will do everything for him and I'm sure he will do everything for me.

1566
00:44:56.537 --> 00:44:59.798
So maybe him I will have to check.

1567
00:44:59.858 --> 00:45:01.239
But I think both of us,

1568
00:45:02.499 --> 00:45:03.039
in our back,

1569
00:45:03.079 --> 00:45:08.958
we will need Martin Skelter with us.

1570
00:45:09.218 --> 00:45:10.518
We need him behind to come,

1571
00:45:10.578 --> 00:45:10.839
you know,

1572
00:45:11.219 --> 00:45:12.359
that we will not have problems.

1573
00:45:14.100 --> 00:45:14.760
Just to make sure.

1574
00:45:16.901 --> 00:45:19.102
And if you were going back through your...

1575
00:45:19.186 --> 00:45:19.566
career,

1576
00:45:20.259 --> 00:45:20.619
you'll say,

1577
00:45:21.687 --> 00:45:23.128
where did you enjoy the most?

1578
00:45:23.129 --> 00:45:25.249
I know you played most frequently in London,

1579
00:45:25.809 --> 00:45:27.569
but staying in Liverpool,

1580
00:45:27.669 --> 00:45:28.430
staying in London,

1581
00:45:28.970 --> 00:45:30.411
if you had to pick again?

1582
00:45:30.571 --> 00:45:31.351
If I had to pick,

1583
00:45:31.352 --> 00:45:34.128
I would live all my life,

1584
00:45:34.148 --> 00:45:34.408
you know.

1585
00:45:34.588 --> 00:45:35.629
I think you would be surprised.

1586
00:45:35.630 --> 00:45:36.529
I would live in Liverpool.

1587
00:45:37.545 --> 00:45:37.786
Really?

1588
00:45:38.326 --> 00:45:39.326
That does surprise me,

1589
00:45:39.346 --> 00:45:39.486
man.

1590
00:45:40.079 --> 00:45:40.479
Yeah,

1591
00:45:40.480 --> 00:45:43.200
I know it's a surprise because when I argue with my friends,

1592
00:45:43.201 --> 00:45:43.940
they always ask me,

1593
00:45:44.320 --> 00:45:45.441
how did you live in Liverpool,

1594
00:45:45.481 --> 00:45:45.781
London?

1595
00:45:45.821 --> 00:45:46.101
I say,

1596
00:45:46.121 --> 00:45:46.241
no,

1597
00:45:46.261 --> 00:45:46.381
no,

1598
00:45:46.382 --> 00:45:46.501
no.

1599
00:45:46.581 --> 00:45:46.842
For me,

1600
00:45:46.902 --> 00:45:47.362
Liverpool.

1601
00:45:48.474 --> 00:45:49.515
The people in Liverpool,

1602
00:45:49.815 --> 00:45:51.077
I love the people in Liverpool.

1603
00:45:51.357 --> 00:45:51.717
They're more,

1604
00:45:51.817 --> 00:45:52.418
I don't know,

1605
00:45:52.498 --> 00:45:52.838
to say,

1606
00:45:52.898 --> 00:45:53.199
you know,

1607
00:45:53.759 --> 00:45:54.980
they remind me a lot of people in Israel.

1608
00:45:55.020 --> 00:45:55.221
Very,

1609
00:45:56.893 --> 00:45:57.494
very simple,

1610
00:45:57.534 --> 00:45:58.154
very honest,

1611
00:45:58.155 --> 00:45:58.415
you know,

1612
00:45:58.416 --> 00:45:58.975
very humble.

1613
00:45:58.976 --> 00:45:59.195
You know,

1614
00:45:59.196 --> 00:46:01.057
I like the people in Liverpool and

1615
00:46:01.398 --> 00:46:02.158
I like the city.

1616
00:46:02.238 --> 00:46:03.880
I love the atmosphere there.

1617
00:46:03.881 --> 00:46:04.460
It's very calm.

1618
00:46:05.309 --> 00:46:05.990
This is what I look,

1619
00:46:05.991 --> 00:46:06.270
you know,

1620
00:46:06.271 --> 00:46:06.870
for a family.

1621
00:46:07.031 --> 00:46:08.732
I have my restaurants,

1622
00:46:08.972 --> 00:46:09.433
you know,

1623
00:46:09.493 --> 00:46:09.933
a cinema.

1624
00:46:10.334 --> 00:46:11.755
I don't need more than that.

1625
00:46:12.459 --> 00:46:13.560
But generally,

1626
00:46:13.640 --> 00:46:14.081
I really,

1627
00:46:14.301 --> 00:46:15.122
really love Liverpool.

1628
00:46:16.606 --> 00:46:17.807
That does.

1629
00:46:17.947 --> 00:46:19.449
I was fully expecting London.

1630
00:46:20.121 --> 00:46:20.982
Everyone said London,

1631
00:46:21.102 --> 00:46:21.603
but not me.

1632
00:46:23.220 --> 00:46:23.340
No,

1633
00:46:23.380 --> 00:46:23.841
I get it.

1634
00:46:23.861 --> 00:46:26.163
Because Glasgow is very like Liverpool as well,

1635
00:46:26.263 --> 00:46:29.638
where it's just friendly people.

1636
00:46:29.639 --> 00:46:30.639
The weather's not great,

1637
00:46:30.759 --> 00:46:30.979
but...

1638
00:46:31.535 --> 00:46:31.856
Yeah,

1639
00:46:32.036 --> 00:46:33.077
but generally in England,

1640
00:46:33.078 --> 00:46:33.557
the weather is.

1641
00:46:33.558 --> 00:46:34.258
So it doesn't matter.

1642
00:46:35.419 --> 00:46:36.300
Weather is not great,

1643
00:46:36.480 --> 00:46:40.564
but I think the people in Liverpool are really great and I really love the place.

1644
00:46:42.028 --> 00:46:42.909
And I'm just curious,

1645
00:46:42.989 --> 00:46:43.249
Yossi.

1646
00:46:43.730 --> 00:46:44.711
What do you do now?

1647
00:46:45.191 --> 00:46:45.471
Obviously,

1648
00:46:45.511 --> 00:46:46.472
you've had your career.

1649
00:46:46.992 --> 00:46:48.594
You've done your sporting director stuff.

1650
00:46:49.034 --> 00:46:49.154
Yeah.

1651
00:46:50.435 --> 00:46:51.536
I was the sporting director,

1652
00:46:51.576 --> 00:46:52.136
as I told you,

1653
00:46:52.156 --> 00:46:52.977
at Betelgeuse,

1654
00:46:53.037 --> 00:46:54.858
where we did a great season and went to Europe.

1655
00:46:55.215 --> 00:46:57.812
The club that almost went down here before.

1656
00:46:58.509 --> 00:47:00.170
Then I signed for the national team.

1657
00:47:00.171 --> 00:47:01.731
I was the sporting director of the national team.

1658
00:47:02.463 --> 00:47:02.624
Yeah.

1659
00:47:02.824 --> 00:47:04.165
And unfortunately,

1660
00:47:04.265 --> 00:47:07.167
we were very close for the first time to qualify for the

1661
00:47:07.507 --> 00:47:09.504
Euro. But unfortunately,

1662
00:47:10.005 --> 00:47:10.285
you know...

1663
00:47:12.406 --> 00:47:13.046
We started,

1664
00:47:14.267 --> 00:47:16.128
I'm sure you heard about the 7th of October,

1665
00:47:16.188 --> 00:47:16.488
you know,

1666
00:47:16.528 --> 00:47:17.468
the war in Israel.

1667
00:47:18.325 --> 00:47:18.485
Yes.

1668
00:47:18.505 --> 00:47:20.225
And we got attacked on the 7th of October.

1669
00:47:20.365 --> 00:47:27.204
So it was really just before the four games that we needed to host two of them in Israel.

1670
00:47:27.444 --> 00:47:29.005
And we needed one win to be in the,

1671
00:47:29.773 --> 00:47:30.013
you know,

1672
00:47:30.053 --> 00:47:30.413
to beat

1673
00:47:30.934 --> 00:47:31.894
Romania or Switzerland,

1674
00:47:31.994 --> 00:47:32.874
one of them in Israel.

1675
00:47:33.595 --> 00:47:34.675
And then we will qualify.

1676
00:47:34.755 --> 00:47:35.455
But unfortunately,

1677
00:47:35.495 --> 00:47:36.296
because of the war,

1678
00:47:36.964 --> 00:47:38.565
we played away from Israel.

1679
00:47:38.585 --> 00:47:40.085
We played Hungary in front of

1680
00:47:40.485 --> 00:47:41.446
500 people.

1681
00:47:41.686 --> 00:47:44.327
instead of playing 50,000 or 40,000.

1682
00:47:45.103 --> 00:47:49.316
And we drew with Switzerland and we lost 2-1 to Romania.

1683
00:47:50.156 --> 00:47:56.798
So we also went to the Nation Cup semi-final and we lost to Iceland again in front of an empty stadium.

1684
00:47:57.850 --> 00:47:58.391
So then

1685
00:47:59.987 --> 00:48:04.824
I sat with the new chairman of the federation camp,

1686
00:48:05.045 --> 00:48:05.965
not the one who signed me,

1687
00:48:06.461 --> 00:48:07.941
and we decided to depart away.

1688
00:48:08.822 --> 00:48:09.322
I did the...

1689
00:48:09.990 --> 00:48:12.611
I took a break from football for almost two years.

1690
00:48:12.911 --> 00:48:13.931
I did all my badges,

1691
00:48:13.951 --> 00:48:15.992
I have a pro license as a coach,

1692
00:48:15.993 --> 00:48:16.672
I have everything.

1693
00:48:17.348 --> 00:48:20.329
But I was really concentrated on my kids,

1694
00:48:20.369 --> 00:48:20.869
my family.

1695
00:48:21.089 --> 00:48:23.670
And of course I went to see football around the world.

1696
00:48:24.298 --> 00:48:25.079
Also with my kids,

1697
00:48:25.159 --> 00:48:26.159
to see the youth clubs.

1698
00:48:27.059 --> 00:48:28.800
Because one of my kids is very talented,

1699
00:48:28.860 --> 00:48:30.800
he had some offers from Europe.

1700
00:48:31.496 --> 00:48:32.397
So we went to Spain,

1701
00:48:32.417 --> 00:48:33.297
we went to Portugal,

1702
00:48:33.317 --> 00:48:33.977
I was in England.

1703
00:48:34.597 --> 00:48:35.998
So I was traveling mainly.

1704
00:48:37.178 --> 00:48:39.559
And now a lot of people try to put me back in football.

1705
00:48:39.579 --> 00:48:41.601
I got a few offers from clubs in Israel.

1706
00:48:41.602 --> 00:48:43.902
I'm thinking if to do it or not.

1707
00:48:44.342 --> 00:48:45.363
Or still wait.

1708
00:48:46.499 --> 00:48:48.100
So when you go to the job,

1709
00:48:48.101 --> 00:48:49.641
you give me a call and I coach your team.

1710
00:48:50.822 --> 00:48:51.462
As a director,

1711
00:48:51.502 --> 00:48:52.042
of course.

1712
00:48:52.342 --> 00:48:52.783
Job's done,

1713
00:48:52.784 --> 00:48:53.023
you see.

1714
00:48:53.024 --> 00:48:54.644
It is done.

1715
00:48:54.804 --> 00:48:56.745
We just signed the contract and that's it.

1716
00:48:56.746 --> 00:48:57.085
We're OK.

1717
00:48:59.306 --> 00:48:59.426
Oh,

1718
00:48:59.707 --> 00:49:00.047
God.

1719
00:49:00.927 --> 00:49:05.250
So would the jobs be sporting directors or do you fancy coaching?

1720
00:49:05.946 --> 00:49:06.186
Yeah,

1721
00:49:06.226 --> 00:49:06.446
well,

1722
00:49:06.546 --> 00:49:10.983
I did coach everything because I think if I leave Israel,

1723
00:49:11.164 --> 00:49:11.404
you know,

1724
00:49:11.405 --> 00:49:12.984
I'm thinking maybe to leave Israel,

1725
00:49:13.512 --> 00:49:17.373
it will not be easy to get to the sporting director directly,

1726
00:49:17.393 --> 00:49:17.613
you know.

1727
00:49:18.293 --> 00:49:19.534
So this is why I did the badge.

1728
00:49:21.206 --> 00:49:23.807
I'm thinking maybe even to coach you or to be,

1729
00:49:24.307 --> 00:49:24.827
like you said,

1730
00:49:24.867 --> 00:49:26.228
even when we spoke in the beginning,

1731
00:49:26.229 --> 00:49:27.228
you said maybe you will be,

1732
00:49:27.248 --> 00:49:27.528
you know,

1733
00:49:28.184 --> 00:49:29.805
an assistant coach or something like this.

1734
00:49:30.165 --> 00:49:33.354
I'm really open to this also way if I will find,

1735
00:49:33.614 --> 00:49:33.874
you know,

1736
00:49:33.894 --> 00:49:34.734
the right coach.

1737
00:49:35.570 --> 00:49:36.251
to work for him,

1738
00:49:37.139 --> 00:49:38.961
to start to build my career also as a coach.

1739
00:49:38.981 --> 00:49:41.042
I think it will be also something interesting,

1740
00:49:41.282 --> 00:49:41.823
even youth,

1741
00:49:42.579 --> 00:49:43.059
youth players.

1742
00:49:43.684 --> 00:49:43.804
So,

1743
00:49:44.740 --> 00:49:45.881
because I think sport director,

1744
00:49:46.121 --> 00:49:48.423
I will be only if I would sign in Israel because,

1745
00:49:48.663 --> 00:49:48.903
you know,

1746
00:49:48.923 --> 00:49:50.104
I have the name here in Israel.

1747
00:49:50.164 --> 00:49:51.245
A lot of clubs wanted me,

1748
00:49:51.725 --> 00:49:53.186
want me now as a sport director.

1749
00:49:54.123 --> 00:49:58.058
But to get this job away from Israel now is very difficult.

1750
00:49:59.103 --> 00:50:00.023
You need to prove yourself.

1751
00:50:00.043 --> 00:50:01.324
You need to be there for a few years,

1752
00:50:01.344 --> 00:50:02.906
and then I'm sure I can do it.

1753
00:50:03.434 --> 00:50:03.554
So

1754
00:50:03.914 --> 00:50:05.015
I'm open for the options.

1755
00:50:06.484 --> 00:50:06.604
Well,

1756
00:50:06.605 --> 00:50:07.564
if anyone's listening.

1757
00:50:09.009 --> 00:50:09.169
Yeah,

1758
00:50:09.289 --> 00:50:13.124
if anyone needs someone to help him improve.

1759
00:50:14.265 --> 00:50:16.026
I'm sure you will get offers.

1760
00:50:16.027 --> 00:50:17.047
I'm not worried about this,

1761
00:50:17.187 --> 00:50:17.547
for sure.

1762
00:50:17.768 --> 00:50:18.168
Thank you.

1763
00:50:18.248 --> 00:50:19.757
Thank you very much.

1764
00:50:19.897 --> 00:50:20.217
Thank you.

1765
00:50:20.218 --> 00:50:22.262
But it has been a pleasure,

1766
00:50:22.302 --> 00:50:22.603
Yossi.

1767
00:50:23.519 --> 00:50:24.300
Thank you for me too.

1768
00:50:24.440 --> 00:50:25.220
Thank you very much.

1769
00:50:25.320 --> 00:50:25.680
Thank you.

1770
00:50:26.977 --> 00:50:27.897
And yeah,

1771
00:50:28.057 --> 00:50:29.966
hopefully you get a job.

1772
00:50:31.527 --> 00:50:32.407
Hopefully in England.

1773
00:50:33.267 --> 00:50:33.788
Or Scotland.

1774
00:50:33.789 --> 00:50:34.928
You can take us to Scotland.

1775
00:50:36.377 --> 00:50:36.817
Scotland,

1776
00:50:36.857 --> 00:50:37.137
England,

1777
00:50:37.357 --> 00:50:37.897
I'm ready.

1778
00:50:39.490 --> 00:50:40.691
Have you been to Scotland before?

1779
00:50:41.771 --> 00:50:41.951
Well,

1780
00:50:41.971 --> 00:50:42.751
I played a few times.

1781
00:50:42.752 --> 00:50:43.031
You know,

1782
00:50:43.231 --> 00:50:44.392
we played against strangers,

1783
00:50:44.432 --> 00:50:45.152
even friendly with

1784
00:50:45.512 --> 00:50:45.953
Liverpool.

1785
00:50:46.993 --> 00:50:48.354
A few I played with the national team,

1786
00:50:49.610 --> 00:50:51.150
but years ago,

1787
00:50:51.451 --> 00:50:51.771
not in...

1788
00:50:53.639 --> 00:50:54.580
Recent years.

1789
00:50:55.096 --> 00:50:56.096
Not in recent years.

1790
00:50:56.097 --> 00:50:58.638
So I need to organise a trip for you to come to watch Rangers.

1791
00:50:59.666 --> 00:50:59.906
Yeah,

1792
00:50:59.907 --> 00:51:00.606
I come to watch.

1793
00:51:00.746 --> 00:51:02.487
We organise a meeting with the club.

1794
00:51:02.507 --> 00:51:02.727
You know,

1795
00:51:02.728 --> 00:51:03.947
if they need assistance,

1796
00:51:04.088 --> 00:51:05.008
I'm ready.

1797
00:51:07.769 --> 00:51:08.289
Perfect.

1798
00:51:09.358 --> 00:51:09.658
Thank you.

1799
00:51:09.718 --> 00:51:10.458
Thank you very much.

1800
00:51:10.478 --> 00:51:11.038
It was great.

1801
00:51:11.178 --> 00:51:11.719
Thank you.