WEBVTT 1 00:00:10.916 --> 00:00:11.377 Guess what? 2 00:00:11.838 --> 00:00:12.838 I'm moving country again. 3 00:00:14.158 --> 00:00:14.580 I don't know, 4 00:00:14.853 --> 00:00:15.494 maybe a year, 5 00:00:15.861 --> 00:00:16.463 maybe more. 6 00:00:17.447 --> 00:00:17.978 Where's the phone? 7 00:00:17.979 --> 00:00:19.135 The phone's everywhere. 8 00:00:19.385 --> 00:00:20.478 I'm an expat. 9 00:00:22.385 --> 00:00:22.650 Hi, 10 00:00:22.931 --> 00:00:23.681 it's Pauline. 11 00:00:23.963 --> 00:00:26.306 Welcome to a new episode of Meet the Expats. 12 00:00:26.447 --> 00:00:28.885 Today I meet with Rekha Nagaran. 13 00:00:29.536 --> 00:00:32.579 who is currently based in Montenegro for the past few months, 14 00:00:33.059 --> 00:00:39.405 has lived abroad and moved towards education and she is the co-founder of Boundless Life, 15 00:00:40.248 --> 00:00:40.788 which is, 16 00:00:40.991 --> 00:00:41.311 I mean, 17 00:00:41.569 --> 00:00:43.327 she's definitely going to be talking about it, 18 00:00:43.413 --> 00:00:51.702 but a company who enables families to live a nomadic life and live abroad with their children and entire family. 19 00:00:51.717 --> 00:00:52.061 Ayreka, 20 00:00:52.186 --> 00:00:52.623 how are you? 21 00:00:53.342 --> 00:00:53.592 Good, 22 00:00:53.655 --> 00:00:54.155 Pauline. 23 00:00:54.202 --> 00:00:55.045 Thank you for having me. 24 00:00:56.405 --> 00:00:56.545 Well, 25 00:00:56.608 --> 00:00:57.498 great to have you. 26 00:00:57.776 --> 00:01:11.385 I'm excited to hear more about this program for families and to hear a little bit more of your experience abroad and what brought you to this company. 27 00:01:11.448 --> 00:01:15.979 I'll let you introduce yourself briefly and then we'll move on to your journey. 28 00:01:17.354 --> 00:01:17.589 Sure. 29 00:01:18.214 --> 00:01:20.276 So my name is Rekha Magan. 30 00:01:22.135 --> 00:01:22.417 I am, 31 00:01:22.495 --> 00:01:23.323 like Pauline said, 32 00:01:23.760 --> 00:01:25.885 one of the co-founders of Boundless Life. 33 00:01:26.589 --> 00:01:26.948 and 34 00:01:27.476 --> 00:01:27.756 I'd say, 35 00:01:27.796 --> 00:01:28.076 I guess, 36 00:01:28.156 --> 00:01:32.317 my living abroad experience or expat experience started when I was, 37 00:01:34.259 --> 00:01:34.517 I mean, 38 00:01:34.556 --> 00:01:35.036 very young. 39 00:01:35.138 --> 00:01:41.337 My parents used to take us to meditation retreats in different parts of the world since I was a kid. 40 00:01:42.001 --> 00:01:45.423 So that kind of gave me a little bit of a taste of travel and, 41 00:01:46.173 --> 00:01:46.423 you know, 42 00:01:46.845 --> 00:01:50.064 living abroad and really giving back to like a local community. 43 00:01:50.798 --> 00:01:52.282 But just little tiny doses. 44 00:01:52.423 --> 00:01:54.204 And then when I went to university, 45 00:01:55.142 --> 00:01:56.439 I was born and raised in Montreal. 46 00:01:57.008 --> 00:01:58.990 I went to McGill and 47 00:01:59.891 --> 00:02:01.191 I had this itch for travel, 48 00:02:01.371 --> 00:02:01.613 you know, 49 00:02:01.711 --> 00:02:02.715 very young. 50 00:02:03.613 --> 00:02:11.820 I did a student exchange program within my second year of university and I went to Singapore and studied at NUS for a semester. 51 00:02:12.422 --> 00:02:14.219 And it just opened my eyes to, 52 00:02:15.109 --> 00:02:15.359 you know, 53 00:02:15.703 --> 00:02:18.734 how amazing it is to live in another country, 54 00:02:19.328 --> 00:02:21.016 how much there is to learn, 55 00:02:21.234 --> 00:02:22.812 all the different experiences. 56 00:02:23.328 --> 00:02:26.500 And I traveled a lot while I was in Singapore on my own. 57 00:02:27.120 --> 00:02:29.362 And I think that was really when I was like, 58 00:02:29.643 --> 00:02:29.803 oh, 59 00:02:29.963 --> 00:02:32.807 like when I have my own family and my own kids, 60 00:02:33.288 --> 00:02:37.674 I want them to live abroad and I want them to experience all these amazing things. 61 00:02:37.909 --> 00:02:39.229 I'm only now tasting, 62 00:02:39.635 --> 00:02:39.870 you know, 63 00:02:39.932 --> 00:02:41.174 in my university years. 64 00:02:41.213 --> 00:02:42.338 So I guess for me, 65 00:02:42.354 --> 00:02:45.674 that's kind of the beginning of my nomadic lifestyle. 66 00:02:46.362 --> 00:02:46.502 OK, 67 00:02:46.674 --> 00:02:47.752 so where it started. 68 00:02:48.081 --> 00:02:50.721 So you had that first touch with your parents in the end, 69 00:02:50.987 --> 00:02:51.768 small pieces, 70 00:02:51.862 --> 00:02:52.409 as you were saying, 71 00:02:52.659 --> 00:02:53.659 meditation retreats. 72 00:02:53.706 --> 00:02:56.221 But then the studying years brought you out. 73 00:02:57.272 --> 00:03:09.655 yeah yeah exactly okay and so how did you once you finished your studies how did you continue traveling or work towards that life of 74 00:03:10.092 --> 00:03:17.030 I want to live abroad I want my family to be able to live abroad later yeah so then I mean when I got married you know I wanted 75 00:03:17.514 --> 00:03:23.264 I took my husband to like Chiang Mai like one of the areas that I loved when I visited Thailand And, 76 00:03:23.373 --> 00:03:23.623 um... 77 00:03:24.020 --> 00:03:24.260 And then, 78 00:03:24.261 --> 00:03:24.460 you know, 79 00:03:24.521 --> 00:03:24.821 told them, 80 00:03:24.881 --> 00:03:25.001 oh, 81 00:03:25.002 --> 00:03:25.642 when we have kids, 82 00:03:25.662 --> 00:03:29.066 we got to come back here with our kids and stay here for an extended period of time. 83 00:03:29.086 --> 00:03:30.484 So when my kids were, 84 00:03:30.906 --> 00:03:31.148 I guess, 85 00:03:31.227 --> 00:03:31.867 four and two, 86 00:03:32.148 --> 00:03:33.531 we went back to Shanghai. 87 00:03:33.750 --> 00:03:34.570 Yeah. 88 00:03:34.711 --> 00:03:35.789 And lived in like this, 89 00:03:35.828 --> 00:03:36.070 you know, 90 00:03:36.148 --> 00:03:38.836 tiny town in an apartment for about a month and a half. 91 00:03:40.750 --> 00:03:42.234 And they were at that age, 92 00:03:42.250 --> 00:03:43.078 they were four and two. 93 00:03:43.906 --> 00:03:44.266 And 94 00:03:45.125 --> 00:03:48.500 I just saw how much even at that tender age, 95 00:03:48.703 --> 00:03:51.328 they evolved as like human beings. 96 00:03:51.329 --> 00:03:51.562 You know, 97 00:03:51.672 --> 00:03:52.922 when we came back to Montreal. 98 00:03:53.736 --> 00:03:55.158 I could see the difference in them. 99 00:03:55.238 --> 00:03:57.100 Like my family members could see the difference. 100 00:03:57.101 --> 00:03:58.159 Our extended families were like, 101 00:03:58.160 --> 00:03:58.459 oh my God, 102 00:03:58.479 --> 00:03:59.842 they had so much to talk about. 103 00:04:00.221 --> 00:04:01.862 They were so much more confident. 104 00:04:03.026 --> 00:04:08.830 It really felt like they evolved at such a young age and just with a month and a half abroad. 105 00:04:09.409 --> 00:04:11.221 And for me, 106 00:04:11.299 --> 00:04:11.549 that's, 107 00:04:11.580 --> 00:04:11.830 I think, 108 00:04:11.909 --> 00:04:21.549 really when I experienced how powerful it is for kids to be in a new environment that's outside of their comfort zone. 109 00:04:21.550 --> 00:04:22.487 And I think as parents, 110 00:04:22.502 --> 00:04:23.112 we tend to... 111 00:04:23.992 --> 00:04:27.375 We tend to be driven by fear, 112 00:04:27.555 --> 00:04:27.815 you know, 113 00:04:27.836 --> 00:04:27.995 like, 114 00:04:28.057 --> 00:04:28.256 oh, 115 00:04:28.257 --> 00:04:29.037 I don't want to like, 116 00:04:29.319 --> 00:04:29.998 I'm scared. 117 00:04:29.999 --> 00:04:30.998 What is this going to do to them? 118 00:04:31.358 --> 00:04:35.143 And it was the first time it gave me the opposite experience that, 119 00:04:35.323 --> 00:04:35.440 oh, 120 00:04:35.487 --> 00:04:35.901 my God, 121 00:04:35.987 --> 00:04:39.065 this is actually unleashing something, 122 00:04:40.104 --> 00:04:40.370 you know, 123 00:04:40.401 --> 00:04:41.291 that nothing, 124 00:04:41.729 --> 00:04:44.198 no other experience could really bring them. 125 00:04:44.213 --> 00:04:52.995 So it kind of wet my palate to what the possibilities are and if that fear in the, 126 00:04:53.245 --> 00:04:53.479 you know. 127 00:04:53.668 --> 00:04:54.411 right at the bud that, 128 00:04:54.472 --> 00:04:54.652 hey, 129 00:04:55.154 --> 00:04:56.519 I don't want to operate out of fear. 130 00:04:56.541 --> 00:04:56.822 Otherwise, 131 00:04:56.823 --> 00:04:58.345 I would have never done something like this. 132 00:04:58.779 --> 00:05:00.581 I want to operate out of wonder, 133 00:05:00.841 --> 00:05:01.161 you know, 134 00:05:01.361 --> 00:05:02.423 and that's, 135 00:05:02.642 --> 00:05:02.943 I'd say, 136 00:05:03.622 --> 00:05:04.743 as a family unit, 137 00:05:05.286 --> 00:05:06.466 when we really started saying, 138 00:05:06.568 --> 00:05:06.767 okay, 139 00:05:08.009 --> 00:05:09.587 I think I want to do stuff differently. 140 00:05:10.353 --> 00:05:10.493 Yeah, 141 00:05:11.368 --> 00:05:11.611 I mean, 142 00:05:11.673 --> 00:05:12.072 it's pretty, 143 00:05:12.697 --> 00:05:17.150 it's quite amazing to see them involved and see what's happening, 144 00:05:17.712 --> 00:05:20.743 the new personalities and traits that come out. 145 00:05:20.806 --> 00:05:23.697 But I think it's really brave also to say, 146 00:05:23.806 --> 00:05:24.009 well, 147 00:05:24.337 --> 00:05:25.572 let's embrace this, 148 00:05:25.712 --> 00:05:26.728 let's do more. 149 00:05:26.900 --> 00:05:27.290 and 150 00:05:28.575 --> 00:05:48.471 also allow yourself and your lifestyle to go go with that also so what were you you and your husband working in to also allow you to travel so much and maybe go abroad for one two three months yeah I mean at that point my husband was working for himself you know he's an entrepreneur as well so he 151 00:05:48.861 --> 00:05:53.721 had you know the flexibility to to to make his own schedule um 152 00:05:54.059 --> 00:05:55.879 I was working on my first business. 153 00:05:56.159 --> 00:05:58.862 My first business was bringing mindfulness into the school system. 154 00:05:58.901 --> 00:05:59.541 So I as well, 155 00:06:00.081 --> 00:06:00.319 you know, 156 00:06:00.401 --> 00:06:01.182 as an entrepreneur, 157 00:06:01.342 --> 00:06:03.940 had that kind of flexibility to set our own hours. 158 00:06:03.941 --> 00:06:05.385 So I think that definitely helped. 159 00:06:07.018 --> 00:06:09.401 And when we first started traveling as a family, 160 00:06:09.581 --> 00:06:18.557 I think we also quickly saw how hard it was at the same time to maintain a sense of rhythm, 161 00:06:18.745 --> 00:06:20.057 a sense of connection, 162 00:06:20.620 --> 00:06:21.948 especially for our kids. 163 00:06:22.892 --> 00:06:28.498 The traditional school system or the traditional society is not built around movement, 164 00:06:28.639 --> 00:06:28.795 right? 165 00:06:31.639 --> 00:06:33.920 You're either in school or you're not. 166 00:06:34.280 --> 00:06:36.764 You're either at home or you're abroad. 167 00:06:37.428 --> 00:06:42.577 There's just very little flexibility in between those two ends of the spectrum. 168 00:06:42.623 --> 00:06:48.998 And that's when we realized that it's not just us. 169 00:06:49.123 --> 00:06:50.702 There are other families as well, 170 00:06:50.858 --> 00:06:51.717 like ourselves. 171 00:06:52.119 --> 00:07:08.133 that want to be able to explore the world yet also stay rooted in something meaningful and have some sort of rhythm in this experience and i would say that kind of awareness or realization is what was the 172 00:07:08.258 --> 00:07:19.023 seed for boundless life um right with that friction of like this desire to grow and discover and explore the families who travel, 173 00:07:19.523 --> 00:07:21.055 but also the need for... 174 00:07:21.727 --> 00:07:24.548 structure and community and purpose. 175 00:07:25.908 --> 00:07:26.306 And for us, 176 00:07:26.330 --> 00:07:29.568 we weren't trying to escape the traditional system. 177 00:07:30.068 --> 00:07:31.427 I think we just realized that, 178 00:07:31.490 --> 00:07:31.607 oh, 179 00:07:31.608 --> 00:07:35.513 the system is not built for the way our family wants to live. 180 00:07:36.029 --> 00:07:39.310 So instead of trying to escape it or run away from it, 181 00:07:39.451 --> 00:07:41.013 we were about, 182 00:07:41.513 --> 00:07:41.669 yeah, 183 00:07:41.685 --> 00:07:42.294 let's create it. 184 00:07:42.295 --> 00:07:44.607 Let's reimagine what this can look like. 185 00:07:46.779 --> 00:07:51.169 We wanted something that was a lot more intentional and a lot more connected. 186 00:07:52.047 --> 00:07:52.287 Okay. 187 00:07:52.788 --> 00:07:52.948 Yeah. 188 00:07:53.368 --> 00:07:53.488 Yeah. 189 00:07:53.687 --> 00:07:54.287 And so what, 190 00:07:55.929 --> 00:07:56.328 I want to say, 191 00:07:56.386 --> 00:07:57.988 what was the trigger or the, 192 00:07:58.730 --> 00:08:00.312 the aha moment that said, 193 00:08:00.671 --> 00:08:00.890 okay, 194 00:08:00.953 --> 00:08:01.085 well, 195 00:08:01.148 --> 00:08:01.632 this is, 196 00:08:02.632 --> 00:08:03.148 this is it. 197 00:08:03.250 --> 00:08:04.531 This is what we're building or. 198 00:08:04.789 --> 00:08:04.953 Yeah. 199 00:08:07.250 --> 00:08:08.890 I would say it was, 200 00:08:09.843 --> 00:08:10.078 you know, 201 00:08:10.079 --> 00:08:10.546 there's like, 202 00:08:10.578 --> 00:08:11.468 I talked about that fear, 203 00:08:11.609 --> 00:08:11.828 right? 204 00:08:11.859 --> 00:08:14.656 Like that fear is always kind of was always underlying in me. 205 00:08:15.437 --> 00:08:17.328 And so I did like initially send my, 206 00:08:17.468 --> 00:08:17.859 my son, 207 00:08:17.890 --> 00:08:18.906 who's our oldest child. 208 00:08:19.291 --> 00:08:19.511 You know, 209 00:08:19.512 --> 00:08:20.252 when he turned six, 210 00:08:20.672 --> 00:08:20.913 you know, 211 00:08:20.933 --> 00:08:22.833 we sent him to the school down the street, 212 00:08:22.894 --> 00:08:24.095 the public school down the street. 213 00:08:24.416 --> 00:08:25.478 We'd built this house, 214 00:08:25.716 --> 00:08:25.958 you know, 215 00:08:25.978 --> 00:08:28.802 so that he could go to the school and be walking distance from it. 216 00:08:29.404 --> 00:08:30.982 And when he started kindergarten, 217 00:08:31.787 --> 00:08:32.060 you know, 218 00:08:32.466 --> 00:08:33.763 he was always a very, 219 00:08:33.966 --> 00:08:34.224 like, 220 00:08:34.365 --> 00:08:35.287 spirited, 221 00:08:35.787 --> 00:08:36.787 full of love, 222 00:08:36.927 --> 00:08:37.755 empathetic, 223 00:08:38.068 --> 00:08:38.724 curious, 224 00:08:38.974 --> 00:08:40.552 love of learning type of child. 225 00:08:40.646 --> 00:08:45.037 And our experience is that he entered this school system. 226 00:08:45.396 --> 00:08:46.896 And within days, 227 00:08:47.740 --> 00:08:48.380 it just felt... 228 00:08:48.667 --> 00:09:04.740 as a mother I felt like I could see that spark in him and that like curiosity and that joy of learning and loving was was just slowly slipping away from him I don't know how to explain it but I could feel like yeah 229 00:09:04.741 --> 00:09:13.552 something was living yeah something was leaving in it and it just to me that just like ignited something in me that I'm like whoa like 230 00:09:14.036 --> 00:09:14.646 I cannot 231 00:09:15.490 --> 00:09:16.490 I cannot lose 232 00:09:16.863 --> 00:09:23.970 the spark of my child to some system that doesn't even align with what I think we should be doing or how we should be learning. 233 00:09:24.009 --> 00:09:24.954 So for me, 234 00:09:25.188 --> 00:09:25.891 it was really, 235 00:09:26.954 --> 00:09:28.251 that was the trigger that, 236 00:09:28.798 --> 00:09:29.095 and it was, 237 00:09:29.235 --> 00:09:29.579 it was, 238 00:09:29.735 --> 00:09:31.040 it was still tricky because, 239 00:09:31.595 --> 00:09:31.837 you know, 240 00:09:31.860 --> 00:09:32.415 he was okay. 241 00:09:32.438 --> 00:09:33.415 He was doing fine. 242 00:09:33.477 --> 00:09:34.493 His teachers liked him. 243 00:09:34.524 --> 00:09:35.134 He had friends, 244 00:09:35.165 --> 00:09:38.743 like everything was going okay on the outside of things. 245 00:09:39.165 --> 00:09:39.352 Yeah. 246 00:09:39.384 --> 00:09:40.868 But just inside 247 00:09:41.243 --> 00:09:45.665 I felt like oh something has shifted here and I just 248 00:09:45.899 --> 00:09:48.081 I can't let that spark in him go. 249 00:09:48.282 --> 00:09:48.983 So that was, 250 00:09:49.803 --> 00:09:50.124 for me, 251 00:09:50.284 --> 00:09:51.186 the trigger that, 252 00:09:51.827 --> 00:09:52.124 you know, 253 00:09:52.424 --> 00:09:54.467 caused me to look at everything differently and see, 254 00:09:54.827 --> 00:09:56.569 how else could we do this? 255 00:09:57.504 --> 00:09:57.925 All right. 256 00:09:58.525 --> 00:09:58.785 Okay, 257 00:09:58.845 --> 00:09:58.986 well, 258 00:09:59.447 --> 00:10:00.767 let's talk a little bit more about 259 00:10:01.107 --> 00:10:01.990 Founders Life. 260 00:10:03.611 --> 00:10:04.572 What's the concept? 261 00:10:04.650 --> 00:10:05.513 How does it work? 262 00:10:06.810 --> 00:10:06.990 Yeah, 263 00:10:07.232 --> 00:10:07.435 sure. 264 00:10:09.834 --> 00:10:10.318 So I think, 265 00:10:10.498 --> 00:10:10.740 you know, 266 00:10:10.935 --> 00:10:11.654 like I was saying, 267 00:10:12.560 --> 00:10:15.654 being abroad initially taught us as a family that, 268 00:10:16.279 --> 00:10:16.498 you know, 269 00:10:16.638 --> 00:10:18.826 travel for us wasn't just about sightseeing. 270 00:10:18.904 --> 00:10:22.654 It was about immersing ourselves into something deeper. 271 00:10:23.048 --> 00:10:24.089 We craved for, 272 00:10:24.289 --> 00:10:24.530 you know, 273 00:10:24.589 --> 00:10:26.872 deeper relationships with the people around us, 274 00:10:26.952 --> 00:10:28.675 with the culture that we were visiting. 275 00:10:29.214 --> 00:10:29.573 And, 276 00:10:29.855 --> 00:10:30.093 you know, 277 00:10:30.296 --> 00:10:31.054 tried to start to think, 278 00:10:31.093 --> 00:10:31.257 okay, 279 00:10:31.320 --> 00:10:35.898 how can our children actually learn differently through these experiences? 280 00:10:36.280 --> 00:10:36.398 So 281 00:10:37.202 --> 00:10:39.921 Boundless Life became the answer to, 282 00:10:40.687 --> 00:10:40.859 hey, 283 00:10:40.999 --> 00:10:41.999 how can we live, 284 00:10:42.452 --> 00:10:48.187 how can we learn and grow in a way that feels wholesome and not fragmented? 285 00:10:48.249 --> 00:10:49.780 So initially 286 00:10:50.171 --> 00:10:51.702 I had kind of studied. 287 00:10:51.872 --> 00:10:53.774 all the different education systems out there. 288 00:10:53.835 --> 00:10:54.594 So I studied 289 00:10:55.036 --> 00:10:58.217 Montessori and Waldorf and 290 00:10:58.819 --> 00:11:00.663 Reggio Emilio and the Finnish system. 291 00:11:00.664 --> 00:11:09.428 And what I liked about the Finnish system is that I saw that education was prioritizing well-being first. 292 00:11:10.444 --> 00:11:16.303 It gave this space for children to be curious and not just focused on performance. 293 00:11:16.631 --> 00:11:18.803 It was much more student-centered, 294 00:11:18.835 --> 00:11:21.147 child-led in a way that 295 00:11:21.576 --> 00:11:23.578 felt deeply human to me, 296 00:11:23.777 --> 00:11:24.058 you know, 297 00:11:24.139 --> 00:11:25.219 less about testing, 298 00:11:25.738 --> 00:11:27.402 more about learning how to think, 299 00:11:27.824 --> 00:11:28.484 how to feel, 300 00:11:28.883 --> 00:11:30.082 how to contribute. 301 00:11:31.848 --> 00:11:31.965 So 302 00:11:32.785 --> 00:11:34.629 Boundless Life for me stemmed with, 303 00:11:34.691 --> 00:11:34.832 hey, 304 00:11:34.887 --> 00:11:37.051 how can we look at education differently? 305 00:11:38.074 --> 00:11:41.996 I didn't want education to be something separate from life. 306 00:11:42.043 --> 00:11:44.058 I felt like at the core of me, 307 00:11:44.074 --> 00:11:46.933 I felt like education needs to be life itself, 308 00:11:48.058 --> 00:11:48.340 where 309 00:11:48.804 --> 00:11:50.426 Instead of just reading about things, 310 00:11:50.486 --> 00:11:50.726 you know, 311 00:11:50.807 --> 00:11:53.730 kids are actually walking through the history of land. 312 00:11:53.867 --> 00:11:54.672 Experiencing. 313 00:11:54.891 --> 00:11:55.031 Yeah, 314 00:11:55.148 --> 00:11:56.371 they're experiencing it. 315 00:11:56.391 --> 00:11:59.914 They're participating in real world decisions, 316 00:11:59.915 --> 00:12:00.195 you know. 317 00:12:01.500 --> 00:12:02.898 And that's, 318 00:12:03.195 --> 00:12:03.437 to me, 319 00:12:03.555 --> 00:12:04.945 that's when learning sticks, 320 00:12:05.117 --> 00:12:05.320 right? 321 00:12:05.336 --> 00:12:05.742 When you're, 322 00:12:06.101 --> 00:12:06.914 it's purposeful. 323 00:12:07.008 --> 00:12:08.976 It's linked to real world experiences. 324 00:12:09.367 --> 00:12:11.820 Those are the things that light children up. 325 00:12:11.883 --> 00:12:17.914 So I wanted to create a model where learning didn't stop when you left the classroom. 326 00:12:18.248 --> 00:12:21.250 It actually followed you everywhere that you went. 327 00:12:21.731 --> 00:12:23.813 So at Boundless, 328 00:12:23.832 --> 00:12:28.035 we basically built an education system that moves with the child, 329 00:12:29.160 --> 00:12:29.957 not against them. 330 00:12:30.043 --> 00:12:32.004 So it's not a one size fits all. 331 00:12:33.020 --> 00:12:36.324 We really kind of drive everything by asking, 332 00:12:36.402 --> 00:12:36.559 hey, 333 00:12:36.652 --> 00:12:37.574 what lights you up? 334 00:12:37.949 --> 00:12:39.027 What does this place, 335 00:12:39.246 --> 00:12:40.856 what can this place teach us? 336 00:12:41.231 --> 00:12:46.418 How can we grow together so that education feels a lot more alive? 337 00:12:47.056 --> 00:12:49.038 That was the education component of it. 338 00:12:49.057 --> 00:12:51.381 So what we realized is that, 339 00:12:52.381 --> 00:12:52.624 you know, 340 00:12:52.643 --> 00:12:57.584 in order for families to live abroad and to slow travel and immerse themselves in a new culture, 341 00:12:58.186 --> 00:13:00.928 they needed a school to send their children to. 342 00:13:01.108 --> 00:13:02.670 So we build an education center. 343 00:13:03.686 --> 00:13:11.702 And then we also provide apartments so parents can live abroad and everything within a 10 minute walking radius. 344 00:13:12.139 --> 00:13:15.327 And then we build a co-working space as well so that parents can. 345 00:13:16.088 --> 00:13:27.581 parents like ourselves who are entrepreneurs or can work remotely have the flexibility to work in one of our co-working space and we also offer experiences so that you know when you're in 346 00:13:28.604 --> 00:13:45.315 Tuscany you're learning Italian language and you're learning how to make fresh pasta and you know going for different excursions so it's more of kind of like a turnkey solution for families who want to live abroad where we provide housing for a few months or 347 00:13:45.992 --> 00:13:47.675 How long would be the average trip? 348 00:13:47.854 --> 00:13:48.956 Is it a couple of weeks, 349 00:13:49.036 --> 00:13:49.356 months, 350 00:13:49.376 --> 00:13:49.755 a year? 351 00:13:50.458 --> 00:13:51.657 We have different cohorts. 352 00:13:51.696 --> 00:13:54.563 So all of our destinations run on the same schedule. 353 00:13:54.641 --> 00:13:56.563 So during the academic school year, 354 00:13:56.680 --> 00:13:59.282 we run three three month cohorts. 355 00:13:59.782 --> 00:14:04.938 So families stay with us for three months and everyone starts on the same day, 356 00:14:05.204 --> 00:14:06.079 ends on the same day. 357 00:14:06.126 --> 00:14:10.735 So there's this kind of instantaneous community building that happens. 358 00:14:11.454 --> 00:14:14.219 And then we have those are our academic. 359 00:14:14.464 --> 00:14:29.802 months and then we also have a one month program in the summer a one month in July a one month in August that run more like a summer camp okay yeah got it okay so yeah it's really the full full experience 360 00:14:29.817 --> 00:14:41.911 and full immersion for and so the kids all start together at school they have this duration all together and in terms of so you're saying the education style is really day you grow with them, 361 00:14:42.052 --> 00:14:43.645 they learn by doing. 362 00:14:43.864 --> 00:14:45.267 I was in a very traditional school, 363 00:14:45.286 --> 00:14:53.101 so it's difficult for me to understand what a day would look like for the kids in that. 364 00:14:54.307 --> 00:15:10.164 this type of school would you would you have any examples that would be able to shed a light for people like me the normal school system yeah sure so um all of our boundless education systems education centers um they're 365 00:15:10.243 --> 00:15:21.211 really created in a way so that they're um the look and feel of each destination is the same so regardless of what location you go to we now have seven locations 366 00:15:21.571 --> 00:15:21.977 We're at... 367 00:15:22.123 --> 00:15:22.604 Portugal, 368 00:15:22.904 --> 00:15:23.204 Italy, 369 00:15:23.524 --> 00:15:23.985 Greece, 370 00:15:24.546 --> 00:15:25.226 Montenegro, 371 00:15:25.466 --> 00:15:25.987 Spain, 372 00:15:26.169 --> 00:15:26.849 and Uruguay, 373 00:15:27.790 --> 00:15:30.895 and opening our eighth hopefully in January. 374 00:15:31.935 --> 00:15:34.739 And each of those education centers have the same look and feel. 375 00:15:34.755 --> 00:15:36.153 So same furniture, 376 00:15:37.036 --> 00:15:38.442 same posters on the wall, 377 00:15:38.864 --> 00:15:39.614 same schedule. 378 00:15:39.708 --> 00:15:43.380 And that schedule looks like it's a full day of school. 379 00:15:43.552 --> 00:15:46.724 So the kids come in around 8.30. 380 00:15:46.725 --> 00:15:48.536 They start their day at 8.45. 381 00:15:48.967 --> 00:16:09.816 and it goes till 3 30 and across all destinations they start their day with 15 minutes of what we call connection time and that's where um we really do like exercises on mindfulness social and emotional learning uh character development um better trying to better understand yourself as well as connect with your peers in the group so 382 00:16:09.925 --> 00:16:16.956 all locations start with that and then um the group moves into what we call mastery time. 383 00:16:17.455 --> 00:16:19.778 So their kids are working on their core subjects, 384 00:16:20.157 --> 00:16:20.579 math, 385 00:16:20.759 --> 00:16:21.200 English, 386 00:16:21.919 --> 00:16:22.462 science. 387 00:16:23.680 --> 00:16:27.723 And then they work on something called a quest. 388 00:16:27.825 --> 00:16:31.692 So a quest is a project-based learning unit. 389 00:16:32.731 --> 00:16:36.294 And all of the locations are working on a similar quest at the same time. 390 00:16:36.341 --> 00:16:41.575 So the quests are based on the UN Sustainable Development Goals. 391 00:16:42.622 --> 00:16:45.637 So each cohort is focusing on one SDG. 392 00:16:46.383 --> 00:17:03.067 And the reason we do these projects that are based on real world problems is because we want our children to be using the concepts that they learn in mastery time and then applying it to a real world problem. 393 00:17:03.082 --> 00:17:03.848 So they can see, 394 00:17:04.285 --> 00:17:04.473 hey, 395 00:17:04.676 --> 00:17:05.942 why is long division? 396 00:17:06.348 --> 00:17:07.692 Why do I need to learn long division? 397 00:17:07.739 --> 00:17:07.910 Well, 398 00:17:07.926 --> 00:17:09.192 with your vision, 399 00:17:09.660 --> 00:17:10.942 you can help us solve, 400 00:17:10.973 --> 00:17:11.192 you know, 401 00:17:11.770 --> 00:17:13.192 world hunger by, 402 00:17:13.317 --> 00:17:13.582 you know, 403 00:17:13.645 --> 00:17:15.114 figuring out how to divide. 404 00:17:15.431 --> 00:17:18.073 all of our resources by the number of people that we need to feed. 405 00:17:18.114 --> 00:17:28.764 So really kind of taking real world problems and using interdisciplinary learning to apply concepts to those world problems. 406 00:17:28.788 --> 00:17:31.170 So that's how we make learning a lot more relevant, 407 00:17:31.248 --> 00:17:32.373 a lot more purposeful. 408 00:17:33.030 --> 00:17:36.373 And then we have different elements throughout the day as well. 409 00:17:36.436 --> 00:17:37.733 So it's throughout the week. 410 00:17:37.858 --> 00:17:41.920 So we have a special unit that's based just on culture time. 411 00:17:41.921 --> 00:17:44.202 So really immersing our kids in the country. 412 00:17:44.551 --> 00:17:46.413 and the culture of the country that they're in, 413 00:17:46.494 --> 00:17:49.556 whether that's learning the local language or, 414 00:17:50.056 --> 00:17:50.295 you know, 415 00:17:50.357 --> 00:17:50.639 doing 416 00:17:51.576 --> 00:17:56.521 Portuguese tile painting when they're in Portugal or maybe learning Greek dance when they're in Greece. 417 00:17:58.146 --> 00:17:58.584 In Italy, 418 00:17:58.662 --> 00:17:59.529 they learned how to make, 419 00:17:59.545 --> 00:17:59.764 you know, 420 00:17:59.849 --> 00:18:01.451 fresh pasta or fresh pizza. 421 00:18:01.482 --> 00:18:05.435 So really giving them a deep dive into the specific culture. 422 00:18:06.920 --> 00:18:11.732 And then every second Friday of our schedule across all destinations, 423 00:18:12.595 --> 00:18:14.755 The entire education center is out on a field trip. 424 00:18:15.677 --> 00:18:22.675 So really getting the kids out of the classroom and into the local community so that they can experience the things that they're learning. 425 00:18:23.698 --> 00:18:24.018 And then 426 00:18:24.456 --> 00:18:25.401 I would say another thing, 427 00:18:26.034 --> 00:18:32.104 two things that make our education system unique is we do something called Boundless Time, 428 00:18:32.245 --> 00:18:41.464 which is another project based unit where all of the kids have a designated time throughout the week where they can work on. 429 00:18:42.223 --> 00:18:45.487 a passion project on something that lights them up. 430 00:18:45.507 --> 00:18:47.808 So it's kind of modeled over on, 431 00:18:48.550 --> 00:18:48.788 you know, 432 00:18:48.890 --> 00:18:50.429 Google's approach. 433 00:18:51.671 --> 00:18:51.851 Yeah, 434 00:18:51.890 --> 00:18:52.257 the 20% 435 00:18:52.593 --> 00:18:57.319 where all employees have to work on something that they're passionate or learn about something that they're passionate about. 436 00:18:57.718 --> 00:18:59.226 So we do the same thing with our students, 437 00:18:59.272 --> 00:18:59.476 right? 438 00:18:59.882 --> 00:19:08.444 We dedicate a certain amount of time every week so that they can learn about something that really lights them up themselves. 439 00:19:09.069 --> 00:19:10.132 Yeah. 440 00:19:10.304 --> 00:19:11.679 And then, 441 00:19:11.680 --> 00:19:11.835 yeah. 442 00:19:12.075 --> 00:19:19.984 And then another thing that's been really powerful is we have another once a week class called Endeavor Time. 443 00:19:20.043 --> 00:19:26.168 And Endeavor Time is where we allow the community members that are staying with us. 444 00:19:26.169 --> 00:19:34.269 So the parents that are part of the Boundless community to come into the classroom and share something that lights them up. 445 00:19:34.535 --> 00:19:34.816 You know, 446 00:19:34.879 --> 00:19:37.785 something that they're passionate about with our group of kids. 447 00:19:37.786 --> 00:19:40.207 And that's something that I've always been really passionate about because I think. 448 00:19:40.539 --> 00:19:45.444 There's so much learning that can happen beyond just a teacher or an educator, 449 00:19:45.503 --> 00:19:45.683 right? 450 00:19:45.745 --> 00:19:45.983 Really, 451 00:19:46.104 --> 00:19:47.487 everyone can be our teacher. 452 00:19:47.647 --> 00:19:50.468 And our boundless community of, 453 00:19:50.710 --> 00:19:51.233 as you know, 454 00:19:51.288 --> 00:19:51.530 you know, 455 00:19:51.593 --> 00:19:54.249 nomadic people who are living life differently, 456 00:19:54.390 --> 00:19:55.413 trying different things. 457 00:19:55.930 --> 00:20:00.172 they have so much to offer themselves in terms of knowledge. 458 00:20:00.274 --> 00:20:00.434 And 459 00:20:01.235 --> 00:20:10.742 I believe there's a lot of power and inspiration that comes when you hear about something from someone who's deeply passionate about that. 460 00:20:11.086 --> 00:20:12.321 So if we have, 461 00:20:12.711 --> 00:20:12.946 you know, 462 00:20:12.992 --> 00:20:17.711 somebody come in who's super passionate about AI or passionate about, 463 00:20:18.539 --> 00:20:18.774 you know, 464 00:20:18.836 --> 00:20:24.946 building robots or whatever it is that they do that lights them up and they talk to our kids about that. 465 00:20:25.702 --> 00:20:26.602 that passion, 466 00:20:26.683 --> 00:20:27.522 that spark, 467 00:20:29.083 --> 00:20:37.888 you never know what seed is being planted just by exposing them to something beyond what a typical educator can expose them to. 468 00:20:37.966 --> 00:20:41.505 So every week we have that built into to our model as well. 469 00:20:41.506 --> 00:20:43.028 And it's been incredible to see, 470 00:20:43.544 --> 00:20:43.778 you know, 471 00:20:43.825 --> 00:20:51.700 the different lessons that parents can bring in based on their own zone of genius and what knowledge they can impart. 472 00:20:51.825 --> 00:20:54.216 So on on yeah 473 00:20:54.430 --> 00:20:54.871 Overall, 474 00:20:54.931 --> 00:20:56.432 that's kind of how the day rolls. 475 00:20:56.433 --> 00:20:59.396 So it's from 8.30 to 3.30. 476 00:20:59.435 --> 00:21:04.197 And then we also offer extracurricular activities at each location after school. 477 00:21:04.299 --> 00:21:06.205 So in Greece, 478 00:21:06.283 --> 00:21:06.799 they learn, 479 00:21:07.205 --> 00:21:09.166 you can register your kids to learn sailing. 480 00:21:09.408 --> 00:21:10.705 In Portugal, 481 00:21:10.799 --> 00:21:12.705 they learn they can have surfing lessons. 482 00:21:14.127 --> 00:21:14.971 In Montenegro, 483 00:21:15.252 --> 00:21:16.392 they're doing scouts, 484 00:21:16.846 --> 00:21:18.049 boy scouts in the, 485 00:21:18.408 --> 00:21:18.658 you know, 486 00:21:18.736 --> 00:21:20.721 mountains right at the foothill of, 487 00:21:21.142 --> 00:21:21.424 you know, 488 00:21:21.455 --> 00:21:21.955 near their school. 489 00:21:22.002 --> 00:21:22.111 So. 490 00:21:22.482 --> 00:21:31.188 a lot of really unique opportunities to learn extra skills based on what country they're in. 491 00:21:31.234 --> 00:21:32.188 Yeah, 492 00:21:32.250 --> 00:21:32.750 definitely. 493 00:21:33.109 --> 00:21:33.930 It's a great model. 494 00:21:33.953 --> 00:21:34.711 It's super interesting. 495 00:21:34.774 --> 00:21:38.414 And I like that last project you were talking about, 496 00:21:38.453 --> 00:21:39.719 about the parents who come in, 497 00:21:40.297 --> 00:21:41.328 share their knowledge, 498 00:21:42.063 --> 00:21:46.891 gets them also involved with all the kids and builds really that sense of community. 499 00:21:47.750 --> 00:21:49.094 And so moving back to the parents, 500 00:21:49.125 --> 00:21:49.734 I guess they... 501 00:21:50.342 --> 00:22:09.215 get to meet each other also and so meet like-minded people in the same area on the same rhythm at the same time absolutely i mean the community part of boundless um i think anyone will tell you who's who's done a boundless cohort that is is the magic um it's kind of this 502 00:22:09.574 --> 00:22:17.856 it brings this automatic sense of belonging no matter what country or time zone you're in um the boundless 503 00:22:18.006 --> 00:22:29.118 community of the people that come together end up building these real deep relationships with people across the globe that you would never typically really interact with, 504 00:22:29.196 --> 00:22:29.438 right? 505 00:22:29.477 --> 00:22:31.055 Unless you're in a situation like this. 506 00:22:31.079 --> 00:22:35.524 So the whole experience becomes not just about travel, 507 00:22:35.680 --> 00:22:37.899 but around shared growth, 508 00:22:38.212 --> 00:22:38.399 right? 509 00:22:38.446 --> 00:22:42.290 Because you're all entering this new country with your children. 510 00:22:42.524 --> 00:22:43.415 You don't know anybody. 511 00:22:44.206 --> 00:22:47.949 And you're all having these brand new shared experiences, 512 00:22:48.012 --> 00:22:48.531 whether it's, 513 00:22:48.930 --> 00:22:49.192 hey, 514 00:22:49.430 --> 00:22:50.313 how do I find, 515 00:22:50.352 --> 00:22:50.594 you know, 516 00:22:50.672 --> 00:22:52.231 tomato paste in Couture, 517 00:22:52.278 --> 00:22:52.973 Montenegro? 518 00:22:53.254 --> 00:22:54.153 I can't find anything. 519 00:22:54.154 --> 00:22:54.715 And looking at, 520 00:22:54.738 --> 00:22:54.973 you know, 521 00:22:55.215 --> 00:22:58.918 different stores and trying to figure it out together with these other groups of families. 522 00:23:00.582 --> 00:23:02.863 It really brings everybody together. 523 00:23:03.020 --> 00:23:07.832 And we have like this big emphasis that in making sure that we, 524 00:23:08.473 --> 00:23:11.488 everything we do is grounded in our core values. 525 00:23:11.520 --> 00:23:13.442 So our values as an organization is... 526 00:23:14.118 --> 00:23:14.599 family, 527 00:23:14.839 --> 00:23:15.540 connection, 528 00:23:15.760 --> 00:23:16.200 growth, 529 00:23:16.479 --> 00:23:17.081 optimism, 530 00:23:17.120 --> 00:23:17.862 and impact. 531 00:23:18.401 --> 00:23:20.643 And these values show up, 532 00:23:20.823 --> 00:23:21.065 you know, 533 00:23:21.085 --> 00:23:25.030 not only in how we design curriculum or choose our destinations or support families, 534 00:23:25.069 --> 00:23:27.554 but because they're so ingrained in what we do, 535 00:23:28.350 --> 00:23:33.179 you end up attracting a lot of like-minded individuals who have the same values. 536 00:23:33.180 --> 00:23:33.350 Yeah, 537 00:23:33.382 --> 00:23:34.194 same values, 538 00:23:34.195 --> 00:23:34.538 of course. 539 00:23:34.632 --> 00:23:34.850 Yeah. 540 00:23:35.100 --> 00:23:36.272 And therefore they can, 541 00:23:36.788 --> 00:23:37.022 you know, 542 00:23:37.023 --> 00:23:42.022 the connections that they make are much deeper and much more impactful. 543 00:23:42.470 --> 00:23:43.851 in a really short period of time. 544 00:23:44.933 --> 00:23:45.152 Nice. 545 00:23:46.394 --> 00:23:47.136 Very interesting. 546 00:23:48.077 --> 00:23:57.265 And do you have specific nationalities that would come more than others or you find that it's completely international and across the globe? 547 00:23:58.124 --> 00:23:58.327 Yeah. 548 00:23:58.624 --> 00:23:58.906 I mean, 549 00:23:58.999 --> 00:24:02.577 I think we have a lot of families that come from the States, 550 00:24:02.812 --> 00:24:03.015 right? 551 00:24:03.046 --> 00:24:04.531 So the USA and Canada, 552 00:24:05.749 --> 00:24:12.171 living a European life for a few months is always very appealing to North American families like ourselves. 553 00:24:12.702 --> 00:24:12.822 So 554 00:24:13.963 --> 00:24:14.764 I'd say about 60% 555 00:24:15.084 --> 00:24:16.846 of the families are either from the U.S. 556 00:24:16.847 --> 00:24:17.486 or from Canada. 557 00:24:17.947 --> 00:24:18.947 And then the other 40% 558 00:24:20.029 --> 00:24:21.951 is a spread across different countries. 559 00:24:21.952 --> 00:24:22.389 So we've had, 560 00:24:22.795 --> 00:24:23.014 you know, 561 00:24:23.029 --> 00:24:23.654 families from 562 00:24:24.193 --> 00:24:25.795 Mexico, from Poland, 563 00:24:25.873 --> 00:24:26.678 from Israel, 564 00:24:26.834 --> 00:24:27.154 from 565 00:24:28.318 --> 00:24:29.865 Italy, from France. 566 00:24:30.834 --> 00:24:31.974 There's a good spread. 567 00:24:32.021 --> 00:24:32.615 Argentina, 568 00:24:32.803 --> 00:24:33.037 you know, 569 00:24:33.068 --> 00:24:34.787 is a spread of different families. 570 00:24:34.788 --> 00:24:35.740 And it's so beautiful, 571 00:24:35.865 --> 00:24:36.490 to be honest, 572 00:24:37.240 --> 00:24:40.224 to share cohorts with families from different countries. 573 00:24:40.256 --> 00:24:40.865 Like I remember. 574 00:24:41.510 --> 00:24:43.473 when we did our cohort in 575 00:24:43.813 --> 00:24:44.653 Italy, in Tuscany. 576 00:24:46.817 --> 00:24:48.438 In a lot of our boundless buildings, 577 00:24:48.477 --> 00:24:49.399 like the apartment we have, 578 00:24:49.602 --> 00:24:55.446 we'll rent an entire building so that all of our families can live in the same building. 579 00:24:55.946 --> 00:24:57.344 So when we were in Tuscany... 580 00:24:58.188 --> 00:25:13.885 um our neighbors one of the boundless families was from israel and my son every friday you know they would invite him over to have shabbat dinner with him uh with their family every friday and it was wonderful he was part of like their you know shabbat dinner we're 581 00:25:13.924 --> 00:25:25.314 like a few weeks into the cohort you know he's using he's come home from school and he's using all these words i'd never heard of and i was like wow you know like you're really learning a lot of italian it's amazing Right, 582 00:25:25.330 --> 00:25:25.939 here we are in a... 583 00:25:27.372 --> 00:25:27.873 And he looks at me, 584 00:25:27.874 --> 00:25:28.173 he's like, 585 00:25:28.413 --> 00:25:29.295 that's not Italian, 586 00:25:29.434 --> 00:25:30.096 it's Hebrew. 587 00:25:32.197 --> 00:25:38.486 And I realized that not only are children learning from the country that we're in, 588 00:25:38.885 --> 00:25:41.447 but they're also learning from the other families. 589 00:25:41.947 --> 00:25:42.104 Yeah, 590 00:25:42.189 --> 00:25:44.268 that they're spending so much time with. 591 00:25:44.314 --> 00:25:45.814 So he's still never been to Israel, 592 00:25:46.283 --> 00:25:51.783 but he has a deep appreciation for Shabbat bread, 593 00:25:51.814 --> 00:25:53.783 and he knows how to speak Hebrew a little bit. 594 00:25:53.893 --> 00:25:56.408 And those experiences, 595 00:25:57.196 --> 00:25:59.377 Somehow they don't happen when we're back home. 596 00:25:59.418 --> 00:26:01.338 I don't know why when we're back home, 597 00:26:01.339 --> 00:26:07.463 I think we fall back into the routine of our daily lives and, 598 00:26:07.830 --> 00:26:08.065 you know, 599 00:26:08.330 --> 00:26:08.908 going either, 600 00:26:09.346 --> 00:26:11.893 I'll either go to my brother's house or I'll go to my friend's house. 601 00:26:11.894 --> 00:26:12.573 Less curiosity. 602 00:26:13.112 --> 00:26:14.018 Less curiosity, 603 00:26:14.158 --> 00:26:16.940 less opening the door to people you don't know and, 604 00:26:16.955 --> 00:26:17.190 you know, 605 00:26:17.283 --> 00:26:21.565 like really making an effort to get to know families that are different than yourself. 606 00:26:21.955 --> 00:26:23.487 But in an environment like this, 607 00:26:23.580 --> 00:26:25.549 where you're full of a group of nomads, 608 00:26:26.190 --> 00:26:26.299 Yeah. 609 00:26:26.932 --> 00:26:28.092 You're just, 610 00:26:28.232 --> 00:26:34.155 it's so serendipitous and easy to spend time with people from different parts of the world. 611 00:26:34.694 --> 00:26:36.295 And I find in that in itself, 612 00:26:36.374 --> 00:26:37.795 just the company you're keeping, 613 00:26:39.038 --> 00:26:39.272 you know, 614 00:26:39.334 --> 00:26:41.999 you're learning so many different perspectives. 615 00:26:42.053 --> 00:26:42.756 And hey, 616 00:26:42.881 --> 00:26:46.178 why does this family think so differently than ours? 617 00:26:46.209 --> 00:26:48.131 And let's listen and understand, 618 00:26:48.241 --> 00:26:48.459 like, 619 00:26:48.850 --> 00:26:50.084 why do they think differently? 620 00:26:50.085 --> 00:26:52.491 And I think even from a brain's perspective, 621 00:26:52.553 --> 00:26:55.678 like the amount of neuroplasticity that happens when you're... 622 00:26:56.644 --> 00:27:02.549 spending time with people that are different than you and you're experiencing new things, 623 00:27:02.912 --> 00:27:04.853 your brain actually expands. 624 00:27:05.455 --> 00:27:09.939 Your prefrontal cortex starts operating at a much different level. 625 00:27:10.478 --> 00:27:14.181 So I think it's not just beneficial for the families and the parents, 626 00:27:14.197 --> 00:27:15.338 but for the kids as well. 627 00:27:15.525 --> 00:27:18.619 Everybody is growing together as a unit. 628 00:27:19.463 --> 00:27:19.603 Yeah. 629 00:27:19.604 --> 00:27:19.713 No, 630 00:27:19.714 --> 00:27:19.822 no, 631 00:27:19.900 --> 00:27:20.166 it's a... 632 00:27:20.888 --> 00:27:23.710 as soon as you start meeting completely different cultures, 633 00:27:23.731 --> 00:27:24.874 you're out of your comfort zone, 634 00:27:24.875 --> 00:27:26.272 but you're learning constantly, 635 00:27:26.354 --> 00:27:26.796 constantly, 636 00:27:26.854 --> 00:27:29.577 constantly and adapting and picking up things on. 637 00:27:30.999 --> 00:27:36.163 And I think there's also a different way of seeing things you're, 638 00:27:36.600 --> 00:27:38.350 you're opening up to new perspectives, 639 00:27:38.413 --> 00:27:39.694 new ways of doing it. 640 00:27:39.882 --> 00:27:47.210 And it just opens your mind and the way you approach problems or life or anything in general. 641 00:27:48.007 --> 00:27:48.554 Absolutely. 642 00:27:48.694 --> 00:27:48.850 Yeah. 643 00:27:50.520 --> 00:27:50.841 Alright. 644 00:27:51.641 --> 00:27:54.444 Is there anything else you want to add on 645 00:27:55.084 --> 00:27:55.705 Boundless Life? 646 00:27:57.506 --> 00:28:05.979 It's something that you have to experience first hand to really understand how impactful it could be for a family unit. 647 00:28:07.963 --> 00:28:09.463 We've grown really quickly, 648 00:28:09.619 --> 00:28:15.947 really fast and I think beyond Boundless Life. 649 00:28:16.556 --> 00:28:17.736 It's not just restricted to, 650 00:28:18.317 --> 00:28:18.557 you know, 651 00:28:18.657 --> 00:28:19.717 doing what we're doing. 652 00:28:19.737 --> 00:28:23.338 I think even within a lot of families or parents say, 653 00:28:23.436 --> 00:28:23.557 oh, 654 00:28:23.577 --> 00:28:24.077 I can't, 655 00:28:24.338 --> 00:28:26.975 I can't travel with my kids or I can't do this with my kids. 656 00:28:26.998 --> 00:28:27.702 I hear that a lot. 657 00:28:28.498 --> 00:28:28.655 Yeah, 658 00:28:28.795 --> 00:28:34.623 I think like the message from my end is just whether it's with Boundless Life or just doing it on your own, 659 00:28:35.139 --> 00:28:39.717 like open your door to new possibilities, 660 00:28:39.795 --> 00:28:40.045 right? 661 00:28:40.264 --> 00:28:42.467 And obviously it's not cheap to travel and, 662 00:28:42.514 --> 00:28:42.764 you know, 663 00:28:42.905 --> 00:28:44.358 it comes with a cost as well. 664 00:28:44.983 --> 00:28:45.827 But I think... 665 00:28:47.192 --> 00:28:51.076 Pushing yourself to do something different and try something new. 666 00:28:52.057 --> 00:28:53.897 And even if you can travel to just, 667 00:28:54.217 --> 00:28:55.201 how could you bring, 668 00:28:55.717 --> 00:28:55.983 you know, 669 00:28:56.100 --> 00:28:59.506 different cultures and different people into your own home? 670 00:28:59.561 --> 00:29:00.022 Maybe it's, 671 00:29:00.365 --> 00:29:00.623 you know, 672 00:29:01.545 --> 00:29:02.506 every week I'm going to try, 673 00:29:02.507 --> 00:29:05.545 I'm going to try making a dish from a different country with my kids. 674 00:29:05.670 --> 00:29:10.451 Or I'm going to once a month invite a family from a completely different culture over for dinner. 675 00:29:10.920 --> 00:29:13.983 just so that you're starting to expand. 676 00:29:15.580 --> 00:29:21.325 the horizons and perspectives of your children to different cultures and different people. 677 00:29:21.864 --> 00:29:30.435 I think it's such a huge gift that you could give your kids in terms of global citizenship. 678 00:29:30.958 --> 00:29:32.880 Even if you can't leave or get on a plane, 679 00:29:33.271 --> 00:29:35.974 there are ways that we could bring that into our daily living, 680 00:29:36.099 --> 00:29:37.005 even back home. 681 00:29:37.442 --> 00:29:40.271 And I just highly encourage parents to take... 682 00:29:40.340 --> 00:29:58.561 the effort to try it takes effort i'm not i'm not joking when i go back home i go back into my cocoon as well um but i think um if we can make the effort it really goes a long way you know not just in our own children but just in the future generation of 683 00:29:59.248 --> 00:30:00.389 kids that we're raising, 684 00:30:00.549 --> 00:30:00.750 right? 685 00:30:00.770 --> 00:30:03.512 The more we expose our kids to different cultures, 686 00:30:03.551 --> 00:30:04.492 to different beliefs, 687 00:30:05.914 --> 00:30:06.934 and then highlight, 688 00:30:07.035 --> 00:30:13.199 help highlight for them the common thread that really connects us all. 689 00:30:13.363 --> 00:30:13.605 You know, 690 00:30:13.645 --> 00:30:14.340 I think the more, 691 00:30:14.762 --> 00:30:16.699 the more countries we live in, 692 00:30:17.293 --> 00:30:18.762 the more people we're exposed to. 693 00:30:18.824 --> 00:30:21.355 The biggest realization I've had is that, 694 00:30:21.434 --> 00:30:21.652 hey, 695 00:30:22.324 --> 00:30:23.246 at the end of the day, 696 00:30:24.027 --> 00:30:25.027 we're all one. 697 00:30:25.152 --> 00:30:26.027 We all have. 698 00:30:26.152 --> 00:30:26.637 We're all here. 699 00:30:27.392 --> 00:30:28.273 We're all human. 700 00:30:28.353 --> 00:30:33.316 And if we could highlight those similarities for our children, 701 00:30:34.719 --> 00:30:40.504 I think there would be a lot more unity in the world and a lot less, 702 00:30:41.769 --> 00:30:42.004 you know, 703 00:30:42.449 --> 00:30:44.566 just frustration and war and pain. 704 00:30:45.910 --> 00:30:46.051 Yeah. 705 00:30:46.191 --> 00:30:50.613 That's my kind of message is just to find the similarities. 706 00:30:50.614 --> 00:30:50.754 Yeah. 707 00:30:50.910 --> 00:30:52.457 Open up and find the similarities. 708 00:30:52.504 --> 00:30:52.894 Exactly. 709 00:30:53.723 --> 00:30:53.863 Yeah. 710 00:30:54.613 --> 00:30:54.894 Great. 711 00:30:55.520 --> 00:30:55.800 Okay, 712 00:30:55.881 --> 00:30:56.021 well, 713 00:30:56.101 --> 00:30:58.964 let's finish up on your recommendations then. 714 00:31:00.606 --> 00:31:04.712 I don't know which country or city you want to do them for. 715 00:31:06.032 --> 00:31:06.313 Sure. 716 00:31:06.548 --> 00:31:08.274 Can I do multiple different ones? 717 00:31:08.352 --> 00:31:09.555 Yeah. 718 00:31:09.633 --> 00:31:13.141 I'll leave it up to you to choose one destination maybe. 719 00:31:13.423 --> 00:31:16.094 We start with either a bar or a cafe, 720 00:31:16.548 --> 00:31:17.407 a restaurant, 721 00:31:17.594 --> 00:31:19.938 and the last one is a carte blanche. 722 00:31:19.939 --> 00:31:20.938 It's part of your choice. 723 00:31:20.939 --> 00:31:23.688 It can be really anything from... 724 00:31:23.892 --> 00:31:39.548 a beach to a yoga studio to a hairdresser whatever sure um okay in terms of like cafe uh that i love um there's i we so we spent multiple cohorts in bali i 725 00:31:39.587 --> 00:31:50.501 love southeast asia and there's a cafe in obud called zeth um it's this all vegan spot that's kind of tucked away into the treetops 726 00:31:51.423 --> 00:31:53.501 Nice. These views of the forest. 727 00:31:53.776 --> 00:32:09.253 and it just has this vibe that invites you to slow down and you know it's the kind of place where you can write read or work from reflect or just be and i love i love like spaces like that where they integrate nature 728 00:32:09.254 --> 00:32:22.323 um with with the cafe or the restaurant so that was definitely one of my favorite cafes i would say in terms of restaurant um in uh portugal there's a place called sourdough 729 00:32:22.896 --> 00:32:23.016 No, 730 00:32:23.076 --> 00:32:23.256 sorry, 731 00:32:23.377 --> 00:32:27.082 sole dough pizza that makes sourdough, 732 00:32:27.083 --> 00:32:28.203 a fresh sourdough, 733 00:32:28.261 --> 00:32:29.183 family fun, 734 00:32:29.441 --> 00:32:29.964 humble, 735 00:32:30.105 --> 00:32:31.441 full of heart restaurant. 736 00:32:32.222 --> 00:32:33.269 You can just taste it. 737 00:32:33.488 --> 00:32:34.949 The food is made out of love. 738 00:32:35.527 --> 00:32:37.847 You kind of bless it before they even serve it. 739 00:32:38.347 --> 00:32:42.863 And it's just such a wholesome place where you walk in kind of feeling like a guest, 740 00:32:42.941 --> 00:32:45.097 but feeling like family. 741 00:32:45.285 --> 00:32:45.785 At home. 742 00:32:46.332 --> 00:32:46.504 Yeah, 743 00:32:46.675 --> 00:32:48.019 I love little places like that. 744 00:32:48.660 --> 00:32:50.879 And then a carte blanche. 745 00:32:51.191 --> 00:32:51.738 Let me see. 746 00:32:52.352 --> 00:32:52.652 Gosh, 747 00:32:53.954 --> 00:32:55.015 I'm a sunset lover. 748 00:32:55.296 --> 00:32:55.415 So 749 00:32:56.757 --> 00:32:58.358 I love chasing sunsets. 750 00:32:58.980 --> 00:33:00.101 They fill me up so much. 751 00:33:00.198 --> 00:33:00.698 I would say, 752 00:33:01.964 --> 00:33:02.198 you know, 753 00:33:02.245 --> 00:33:03.823 one of the cliffs in Syros, 754 00:33:04.526 --> 00:33:07.464 our Greece destination is on an island in Syros. 755 00:33:08.128 --> 00:33:11.011 I'm just watching the sunset from one of those cliffs. 756 00:33:12.026 --> 00:33:12.308 For me, 757 00:33:12.417 --> 00:33:13.776 that's like my reset button. 758 00:33:13.933 --> 00:33:14.167 You know, 759 00:33:14.198 --> 00:33:15.120 it's that quiet, 760 00:33:15.995 --> 00:33:16.933 powerful, 761 00:33:17.995 --> 00:33:21.636 makes me wide open where I can kind of just stop. 762 00:33:22.212 --> 00:33:22.332 Yeah, 763 00:33:22.512 --> 00:33:23.993 you forget everything during the day. 764 00:33:24.032 --> 00:33:24.932 Exactly. 765 00:33:24.973 --> 00:33:25.653 Just on the moment. 766 00:33:26.374 --> 00:33:26.534 Yeah, 767 00:33:26.733 --> 00:33:27.432 everything just, 768 00:33:27.612 --> 00:33:27.854 you know, 769 00:33:27.893 --> 00:33:28.714 washes away. 770 00:33:29.413 --> 00:33:37.417 And it also reminds me just how beautiful it is to have the freedom to live like a nomad, 771 00:33:37.635 --> 00:33:37.878 right? 772 00:33:37.932 --> 00:33:38.128 Like, 773 00:33:38.268 --> 00:33:38.518 you know, 774 00:33:38.581 --> 00:33:39.596 you're catching a sunset. 775 00:33:39.940 --> 00:33:41.190 We're all looking at the same sun. 776 00:33:41.878 --> 00:33:42.049 But, 777 00:33:42.190 --> 00:33:42.440 you know, 778 00:33:42.456 --> 00:33:46.424 to be able to see it from so many different places at so many different parts of the year, 779 00:33:47.940 --> 00:33:48.534 I feel super, 780 00:33:48.753 --> 00:33:50.503 so much gratitude to just. 781 00:33:50.872 --> 00:33:54.857 watch the sunset and appreciate the freedom that we have to be able to, 782 00:33:55.576 --> 00:33:56.518 to enjoy it. 783 00:33:56.557 --> 00:33:56.877 Okay. 784 00:33:57.537 --> 00:33:58.197 And last, 785 00:33:58.361 --> 00:34:01.260 I always end my interviews on the expat song. 786 00:34:01.440 --> 00:34:07.768 So what would be a song that resonates with your personal journey or with band is life? 787 00:34:08.377 --> 00:34:08.908 Let me think. 788 00:34:09.268 --> 00:34:09.518 Okay. 789 00:34:10.893 --> 00:34:11.174 I mean, 790 00:34:11.299 --> 00:34:11.846 one song, 791 00:34:11.986 --> 00:34:12.377 it might, 792 00:34:12.378 --> 00:34:13.533 my kids think I'm cheesy, 793 00:34:13.658 --> 00:34:16.658 but the one song I always go back to that I love. 794 00:34:18.232 --> 00:34:19.994 It's a song by India Ari. 795 00:34:20.093 --> 00:34:21.374 It's called I Am Light. 796 00:34:22.054 --> 00:34:22.417 And 797 00:34:23.437 --> 00:34:25.179 I just think this song is everything. 798 00:34:25.180 --> 00:34:25.398 You know, 799 00:34:25.761 --> 00:34:28.765 it's a reminder that we're not labels, 800 00:34:28.820 --> 00:34:29.765 we're not roles, 801 00:34:29.804 --> 00:34:31.085 we're not expectations. 802 00:34:31.749 --> 00:34:33.507 All of us are just light. 803 00:34:33.570 --> 00:34:36.624 And that light is in everyone that we meet, 804 00:34:37.234 --> 00:34:38.531 everyone that we serve. 805 00:34:39.156 --> 00:34:40.453 And like I mentioned before, 806 00:34:40.859 --> 00:34:43.499 it reminds me that we're all really connected, 807 00:34:43.734 --> 00:34:44.015 you know, 808 00:34:44.218 --> 00:34:46.265 and if we can focus on. 809 00:34:46.808 --> 00:34:47.592 each other's light, 810 00:34:48.555 --> 00:34:51.465 I think the whole planet would be a lot more. 811 00:34:53.279 --> 00:35:07.789 um lit up yeah yeah yeah lovely beautiful i mean i love this conversation really full of meaning um i mean the purpose you have behind boundless life is is really empowering it's 812 00:35:07.836 --> 00:35:20.227 nice to to hear people with that passion and that will to connect uh people to to see what's out there and just to bring the kids as soon as possible on that journey um 813 00:35:20.498 --> 00:35:23.959 really a full mindset and really goes beyond education, 814 00:35:24.040 --> 00:35:24.338 I feel. 815 00:35:24.918 --> 00:35:25.758 So super interesting. 816 00:35:25.821 --> 00:35:26.598 Thank you for sharing. 817 00:35:28.161 --> 00:35:34.102 We'll link the website and any social media or other links in the comments, 818 00:35:34.219 --> 00:35:34.758 of course. 819 00:35:34.922 --> 00:35:35.860 And guys, 820 00:35:35.961 --> 00:35:37.266 if you enjoyed the episode, 821 00:35:37.782 --> 00:35:40.704 please put a rating on Apple Podcast or Spotify. 822 00:35:40.969 --> 00:35:41.844 And as usual, 823 00:35:41.922 --> 00:35:44.110 you can find all the details, 824 00:35:44.266 --> 00:35:49.860 all the links of the places we mentioned in the comments and all the updates on Instagram.