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Hello,

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welcome back to Papers of Backtest podcast.

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Today we dive into another algo trading research paper.

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We are,

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and today we're zeroing in on a study called Analyst Days,

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Stock Prices,

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and Firm Performance.

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It's by Diwu and Amir Yarin.

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Right,

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from October 2018.

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Yeah.

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And it digs into these things called analyst days.

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What exactly are those,

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based on the paper?

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Well,

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they're basically events hosted by a company.

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They invite equity analysts,

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institutional investors,

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you know,

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the big players.

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Okay.

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And they share information,

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updates,

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plans,

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that sort of thing.

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But the key is because of regulation fair disclosure or a reg FD.

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Oh,

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reg FD.

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Exactly.

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Anything significant they disclose has to be released publicly at the same time.

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So no selective disclosure.

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Got it.

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So it's a burst of public information.

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And the paper says these have become more popular since around 2004.

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they've seen a rise in usage.

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Firms seem to find them valuable.

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So our mission today then is to unpack the trading rules and the backtest results the researchers found.

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Basically,

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how does the market react after these analyst days?

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Exactly.

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What happens to the stock price?

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And could you potentially treat on that information?

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And they had a good amount of data to work with,

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I gather.

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yeah.

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Quite comprehensive.

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They looked at 3,890 analyst day events.

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U.S.

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listed firms between 2004 and 2015.

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And they linked all that event data with stock prices,

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accounting data.

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Really thorough.

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And they even collected the text from the announcement so they could see what was being discussed.

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great foundation.

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Let's get straight to the core findings then.

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What happened to stock prices after these analyst days?

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Were there any signals for traders?

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The main takeaway,

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firms holding these events saw,

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on average,

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significantly higher abnormal returns afterwards.

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Abnormal returns meaning they beat the market,

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right?

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Precisely.

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They performed better than you'd expect just based on general market trends or their typical risk profile.

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Can we put a number on that?

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How much better?

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one of the first back tests they ran was pretty simple.

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Buy the stock on the analyst day,

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hold it for 20 trading days.

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Straightforward enough.

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That strategy earned a market adjusted return of 1.6%.

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So 1.6%

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above the market over those 20 days on average.

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1.6%

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in about a month.

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whoa,

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that's certainly noticeable.

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Did they look at it from a portfolio perspective too?

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They did.

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They simulated building a portfolio of these stocks around their analyst days,

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a calendar time approach.

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That portfolio showed a one-month four-factor alpha of 1.8%.

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So that's return adjusted for market risk,

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size,

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The usual factors.

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It suggests there was some genuine excess return there,

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not just compensation for standard risk factors.

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And 1.8%

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alpha per month is quite substantial.

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And was this just a quick blip?

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That's the interesting part.

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It wasn't just a flash in the pan.

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The abnormal returns stayed significantly positive for up to six months.

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Six months.

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And they didn't find evidence that this was because the stock suddenly got riskier or that it was just some kind of temporary bounce back,

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you know,

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mean reversion.

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So no obvious increase in risk and the gains held for a while.

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after about 250 trading days,

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roughly a year,

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the returns weren't statistically significant anymore.

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But they didn't see a big downward trend either.

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It just sort of faded.

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That implies the market is,

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maybe a bit slow to catch on.

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It takes months to fully price in the information.

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That's exactly what the researchers suggest.

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They talk about market underreaction.

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The cumulative abnormal returns,

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the SARs,

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kept trending upwards for the first three months.

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did that change?

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It did.

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Volume was higher in the first 20 trading days post-event,

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which,

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fits that picture.

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of investors gradually digesting and reacting to the news.

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so the action seems to be after the event.

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What about trying to get in before?

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Did the market anticipate these events?

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Apparently not,

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or at least not consistently.

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The abnormal returns in the month leading up to the analyst day weren't significantly different from zero.

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So just knowing an analyst day was scheduled didn't really help you from a trading perspective beforehand?

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Doesn't look like it based on their data.

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The value seems to be in the information revealed on the day itself.

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which means

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the opportunity window opens right around the event,

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or maybe even slightly after.

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That seems to be the case.

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They found you could realize the average 1.6%

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monthly abnormal return by buying on the analyst day.

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But even buying up to a week later still seemed profitable.

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The SARA-RR,

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the cumulative return from day T plus 5 to day T plus 20 was still around 1%.

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So you didn't necessarily need lightning fast reactions.

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There was some time.

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A little bit of time,

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The under reaction created a slightly longer window.

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And they check this using different ways to measure returns,

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just to be sure.

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Robustness checks.

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Carhartt four-factor model returns,

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buy and hold abnormal returns,

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BHRs,

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looked at various windows like T20 to

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T plus 60.

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And the results held up.

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Largely,

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Similar positive trends across the board.

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They did note maybe a tiny hint of mean reversion in one BHR measure between 30 and 60 days,

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but the standard errors were pretty high,

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so not a strong signal.

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so the short to medium term picture looks...

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It's pretty solid.

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What about even longer term using that calendar portfolio approach?

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looking out further,

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up to 60 months,

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it confirmed those strong positive abnormal returns on the day and for up to six months after.

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They calculated annualized alphas reaching as high as 8%

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in those first two months post-event.

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annualized alpha.

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That's significant.

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It is.

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they checked the risk.

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The post-event betas weren't significantly different from pre-event betas.

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So it wasn't just taking on more risk.

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And beyond six months.

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The alpha tended to drift back towards zero,

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especially when you held for more than 250 trading days.

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and an interesting side note.

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These stocks tended to have negative commovement with momentum stocks.

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Meaning when momentum strategies were hot,

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these analyst day stocks maybe didn't do as well and vice versa.

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An interesting portfolio diversification aspect,

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Let's circle back to the trading volume patterns.

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You said it picked up after the event.

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Not much happening before,

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maybe a slight pickup a day or two prior.

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bang on the event day,

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volume jumps about 7%

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above normal.

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And this elevated volume stuck around for about 20 trading days,

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averaging maybe

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3.4% higher overall during that period.

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That really paints a picture of information slowly diffusing and triggering trades,

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doesn't it?

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Supports the underreaction idea.

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It really does.

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Increased interest.

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More trading as the news sinks in.

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did the type of information shared at these analyst days matter?

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Did they all have the same effect?

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good question.

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They actually looked into that using the text analysis.

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They use a technique,

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latent Dirichlet allocation,

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LDA.

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fancy term for grouping topics.

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They classified the announcements into four main types.

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discussions about strategy,

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and talks about technology and markets.

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And did the market react differently?

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Very much so.

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The big winners were analyst days focused on new products or discussing technology and markets.

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How much better were they?

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product-related days showed suckars up to 8%

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in the two months following the event.

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That's huge.

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8%?

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Compared to?

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Compared to events just reviewing past financial results.

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Those didn't generate significantly positive returns at all.

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Interesting.

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So forward-looking news,

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like products and markets,

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had a much bigger impact than just rehashing old numbers.

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Strategy-related events also showed a positive drift,

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maybe 1.6%

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CAR in the first 20 days.

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And the technology-market-focused ones had cars up to 4%

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over 60 days.

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But product news was the clear standout.

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That makes intuitive sense,

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New products often mean new growth potential.

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Precisely.

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It's about future prospects.

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The paper also touched briefly on actual firm performance and analyst behavior after these events,

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right?

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Not just stock price?

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It did,

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they found firms holding these days tended to show significantly higher revenue growth,

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better earnings per share,

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and higher dividend yields for up to two years afterwards.

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So the events often preceded actual improvements in the business itself?

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It seems correlated,

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yes.

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And analyst behavior changed too.

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After an analyst day,

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you typically saw more analysts covering the stock.

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Increased coverage.

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Higher earnings estimates,

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higher price targets,

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and importantly,

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less disagreement among analysts,

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lower forecast dispersion.

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So the events seem to provide clarity and maybe some optimism to the analyst community.

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That seems to be the effect.

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more coverage,

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more agreement,

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more positive outlooks.

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so let's wrap this up for someone listening who might be interested in the trading angle.

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What's the main takeaway?

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The core takeaway is that this study reveals significantly positive abnormal returns following analyst days.

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There seems to be a market underreaction.

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Meaning there's potentially an edge there.

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Potentially,

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yes.

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especially for analyst days focused on those forward-looking topics like product announcements or market updates.

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The opportunity might persist for days,

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weeks,

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even a few months after the event.

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But and this is the crucial caveat.

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Absolutely.

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This is based on historical averages from 2004 to 2015.

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Markets change.

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Any specific strategy needs serious individual research,

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backtesting on current data.

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You know the drill.

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Past performance is no guarantee,

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et cetera,

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et cetera.

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But it definitely highlights analyst days as events.

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worth paying attention to.

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Definitely.

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It's a specific type of information event that,

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historically at least,

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seems to have had a predictable,

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albeit delayed,

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market impact.

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Fascinating stuff.

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A clear example of potential market inefficiency,

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even if it's temporary.

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Indeed.

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Makes you wonder what other scheduled information events might have similar underappreciated effects.

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Thank you for tuning in to Papers with Backtest podcast.

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We hope today's episode gave you useful insights.

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