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Welcome to today's podcast where I'm joined by the legendary Jonathan Watson.

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Thank you very much for joining me.

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Thanks for asking me along.

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Looking forward to it.

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As I was saying to you there before,

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obviously as a young kid growing up,

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watching

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Only An Excuse,

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also City Lights actually,

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I'm going to start at the start.

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I used to watch that,

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or my mum and dad used to watch it and I get forced to watch it,

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but I think that was my first time seeing you guys.

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Oh really?

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Talking about you and how you got into TV in the first place,

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how did your career start?

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So,

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how long have you got?

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Oh,

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as long as you like.

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Well,

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I used to do stuff when I was a kid.

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Yep.

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When I was about 10,

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somebody had mentioned to my dad that there was a junior course at the Drama College,

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Ross Scottish Academy of Music and Drama,

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which is down in St.

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George's Place,

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now Nelson Mandela Place.

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And it was a

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Saturday morning thing.

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And my dad said,

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do you fancy going along?

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And I said,

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I'll give it a go.

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So I went along and I loved it.

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I really enjoyed it.

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And it was a great set up because,

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you know,

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you think drama lessons or drama classes at that time would be a very middle class thing.

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Yeah.

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It wasn't.

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It was kids from all over Glasgow.

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Newton Burns,

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Springburn,

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the Gorbals,

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you know.

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I was brought up in St George's Cross.

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It was kids from all backgrounds.

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I loved it.

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I really enjoyed it.

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And at that time,

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if the BBC in particular,

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if they were casting anything that required kids in it,

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they would come along on a Saturday and sit up the back,

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and if they thought you might be right for the part,

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you'd be asked to read,

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and you might get a part.

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So from quite an early age,

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about 11 or 12,

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I started doing

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TV work.

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Because the benefit I had,

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when I was 11 or 12...

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I could look about eight or nine as well,

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so that helped.

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I spent,

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until my voice broke,

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when I was about 14,

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15,

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I did a lot of stuff for BBC,

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Dr Finlay's Casebook,

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Sutherland's Law,

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you know,

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worked with some amazing people,

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worked with the director,

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Alan Parker,

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when he was still,

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just before he did Bugs Him Alone,

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when he was doing...

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they're a big commercial inn.

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So things like that.

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So that's how I started in it.

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But I had no intention of doing it as a career.

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I just,

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it didn't enter my head.

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It was fun.

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It was a good laugh.

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Made a few bob,

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not much,

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I just enjoyed it.

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But I had no idea or no wish to pursue it as a career.

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I left school not really knowing what I was going to do.

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My dad,

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he was a commercial artist by trade.

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He'd gone to art school to do commercial art and gone into advertising.

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And I'd got a summer job at his place when I was about 17.

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At the end of the summer job they said,

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we'll take you on,

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train you and all that.

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And I went back there a sixth year,

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because all my mates were doing that,

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and wasted a year.

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And then when I left school at sixth year,

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that's what I was going to do.

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So I did a course that was going to set me up for a career in advertising,

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knowing that I had a job at the end of it as well.

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And then halfway through it,

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the BBC phoned up and said,

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There's a play we'd like to offer you.

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And the college wouldn't give me the time off.

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Three weeks or something I had to get off.

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I'd quite like to do the play.

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just do the play.

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I dogged it for three weeks.

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Did the play and then after that I thought,

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this is what I fancy doing.

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And I went and I got one of the last

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additions for the next year's intake for the drama college.

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three years there,

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got my equity card at the

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Citizens Theatre,

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the tie company,

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and that's been me ever since.

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Never went back to a normal job?

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Even in between stuff?

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I've always,

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one of the things I'm very fortunate,

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I've always had a job to go to in this line of work,

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so I'm very fortunate in that respect,

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but no I haven't.

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it's weird because there was a guy I'm not going to say his name because he was embarrassed he was in River City very very well known guy and he was doing a bit of Amazon in between because obviously he was in between jobs and I'm like can I have a wee thing up over his face and I'm looking at him and I'm going

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I know you and it dawned on me who it was and my missus loved River City and she loved that particular character and I'm like any chance I pick her I don't want to be seen with her

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Amazon and I embarrassed them I think as well but

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I never really thought that you just assume these guys are all making a fortune and they're all making a lot of money and I didn't really realise until I spoke to a few other people like these guys don't actually always make a lot of money and there's obviously a lot of jobbing actors who are out of work for a year and all that kind of stuff.

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Oh yeah I mean the percentage it's a really high percentage I think it's something that there's only about there's about 90%

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of people who are trained to be actors that are out of work

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all the time.

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It's a very small percentage that have kept going.

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very difficult.

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I was lucky.

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I got a job over lockdown,

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a lot of folk didn't.

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but you've got that's what you do what you do so you obviously done

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done all of this kind of stuff,

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you went into

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City Lights and various other things as well,

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were you always destined to become a funny guy?

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I don't

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I don't think so many people would question that what happened was I started out doing the sort of normal stuff,

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you would do plays,

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usually in the summer you would do a drama a big drama in BBC Scotland and you'd hopefully get into that

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just I'm trying to think,

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get my bearings.

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I did things like work with Sim 84,

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then I got a part in Local Hero,

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things like that.

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I was plugging away,

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mate,

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and I was beginning to sort of make,

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get a good sort of body of work behind me.

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And then I did a play,

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and one of the guys in it was working with the comedy unit.

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BBC Scotland.

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and they were doing things like kick up the 80s,

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laughing nearly paid my licence fee and all that kind of stuff.

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And he recommended me to him because they were doing a thing called

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Naked Radio at the time.

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So I became part of the Naked Radio team,

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I did the pilot of City Lights and then that was shelved for a wee bit.

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We did Naked Video and then after the first series of Naked Video,

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had said to me...

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Remember that thing we did a couple of years ago?

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it's going to go to series.

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City Lights got started.

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The only ones that survived the pilot were

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Kelly, Jerry Kelly,

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me and Dave Anderson.

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Or the bank workers.

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Everybody else got binned.

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Good memories.

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It was a good show.

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I thoroughly enjoyed it.

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how long was it before Only an Excuse became a thing?

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couldn't have been much,

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innit?

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so I'll tell you,

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Only an Excuse started,

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round about the exact same time as,

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as City Lights got commissioned.

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Only an Excuse was the summer of 1986.

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City Lights.

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And that came about because there was a documentary on BBC Scotland called Only a Game that was written and narrated by William McIlvany.

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Philip Differ and I,

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who I work with in

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Naked Radio and Naked Video,

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we loved it.

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Only a Game We Threaten was brilliant.

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We'd go into the trough and to record Naked Radio,

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and I'd be sitting up at the back,

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marking my script,

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doing William McIlvany and Dennis Law.

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it was his idea.

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He went to the then head of

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BBC Scotland Radio and said...

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A guy called Stan Taylor said to Stan,

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I've got this idea to do a spoof of Only a Game.

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And I'll write it along with Ian and Bob,

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and I'm going to get Johnny in it,

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I'm going to ask Tony as well,

278
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I wonder if I can get the money for a pilot.

279
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And Stan took a long draw of his embassy tip and said,

280
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forget the pilot,

281
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that sounds brilliant,

282
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just make the programme.

283
00:10:03.940 --> 00:10:05.681
No script or anything like that written yet.

284
00:10:06.081 --> 00:10:07.262
And that would never happen now.

285
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That would never happen,

286
00:10:08.403 --> 00:10:09.483
but he went with his gut feeling.

287
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And the three of us,

288
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Philip,

289
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Me and Tony,

290
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maybe more,

291
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maybe Jim Hunter doing sound,

292
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we recorded

293
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Only an Excuse,

294
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the first one,

295
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over a Saturday and Sunday in Queen Margaret Drive with nobody in.

296
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Jeez.

297
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Just as we just recorded it.

298
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And when it came to do the Jimmy Sanderson phone-in,

299
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famous Jimmy Sanderson from Radio Clyde,

300
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Philip says,

301
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right,

302
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you can't be sitting here.

303
00:10:40.619 --> 00:10:42.280
You go into another office and phone in.

304
00:10:42.620 --> 00:10:43.821
So I actually did phone in.

305
00:10:44.814 --> 00:10:44.934
So,

306
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it was great.

307
00:10:46.395 --> 00:10:46.515
Ah,

308
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yeah.

309
00:10:47.456 --> 00:10:48.037
Great memories.

310
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How much of that,

311
00:10:50.290 --> 00:10:50.610
see,

312
00:10:50.630 --> 00:10:51.350
we used for writing,

313
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only an excuse and all that.

314
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How much of an input did you have in the writing and all that as well?

315
00:10:56.430 --> 00:10:57.611
Very little at that point.

316
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At that stage,

317
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when we did the first one,

318
00:11:02.142 --> 00:11:02.382
I mean,

319
00:11:02.883 --> 00:11:06.021
the writing talent that contributed was huge.

320
00:11:06.022 --> 00:11:06.261
It was,

321
00:11:06.341 --> 00:11:06.581
you know,

322
00:11:06.641 --> 00:11:07.242
Philip Differ,

323
00:11:09.295 --> 00:11:10.316
who also produced it.

324
00:11:10.676 --> 00:11:11.496
He was writing stuff.

325
00:11:11.657 --> 00:11:12.257
Bob Black,

326
00:11:12.258 --> 00:11:13.238
the wrote City Lights.

327
00:11:14.194 --> 00:11:16.395
Ian Patterson that wrote Rabsy Nesbitt,

328
00:11:16.755 --> 00:11:23.561
that's the kind of quality of writing we were having to deal with.

329
00:11:24.401 --> 00:11:25.241
These guys were great.

330
00:11:25.501 --> 00:11:30.310
So that was a real plus from our point of view.

331
00:11:30.651 --> 00:11:33.139
And were you quite happy to just go with the flow?

332
00:11:33.519 --> 00:11:33.639
Yeah,

333
00:11:33.739 --> 00:11:34.660
because at that stage

334
00:11:36.072 --> 00:11:37.152
I didn't have the experience.

335
00:11:37.153 --> 00:11:40.037
I was still pretty sort of new to it all.

336
00:11:40.297 --> 00:11:41.557
And I didn't have the experience.

337
00:11:41.578 --> 00:11:42.638
But over the years...

338
00:11:44.159 --> 00:11:46.356
You learn by listening,

339
00:11:46.416 --> 00:11:48.997
sitting in and listening to different script sessions.

340
00:11:48.998 --> 00:11:51.278
You get an idea of script editing,

341
00:11:51.338 --> 00:11:51.879
what works,

342
00:11:51.939 --> 00:11:52.459
what doesn't,

343
00:11:52.839 --> 00:11:54.200
when you should trim something down,

344
00:11:54.220 --> 00:11:55.201
when you should just let it go,

345
00:11:55.761 --> 00:11:59.119
when you should maybe come out early and have a sketch,

346
00:11:59.679 --> 00:12:01.340
rather than have it dry-go and things like that.

347
00:12:01.640 --> 00:12:03.301
So I began to learn that.

348
00:12:03.641 --> 00:12:04.582
And then laterally,

349
00:12:05.142 --> 00:12:06.935
Philip is more recent...

350
00:12:06.955 --> 00:12:07.115
Well,

351
00:12:07.655 --> 00:12:08.456
not more recently,

352
00:12:10.801 --> 00:12:12.142
probably about 20 years ago.

353
00:12:12.902 --> 00:12:16.584
He started to encourage me to write a little bit more as well.

354
00:12:17.132 --> 00:12:19.153
But if I did,

355
00:12:19.313 --> 00:12:19.833
it was just,

356
00:12:19.993 --> 00:12:20.293
you know,

357
00:12:21.054 --> 00:12:23.935
quick gags rather than prolonged sketches.

358
00:12:24.095 --> 00:12:24.255
Yeah.

359
00:12:24.475 --> 00:12:29.521
But also very much encouraged to contribute ideas,

360
00:12:30.333 --> 00:12:32.954
especially when it transferred to television.

361
00:12:33.295 --> 00:12:33.415
Yeah.

362
00:12:33.555 --> 00:12:36.752
Very much encouraged to suggest characters.

363
00:12:37.516 --> 00:12:37.636
So,

364
00:12:37.976 --> 00:12:38.217
you know,

365
00:12:39.209 --> 00:12:40.829
there was an input there,

366
00:12:41.030 --> 00:12:41.710
but maybe not.

367
00:12:41.950 --> 00:12:43.091
so much in the writing front

368
00:12:43.499 --> 00:12:46.509
I need to ask about Chick Young because I said to Chick,

369
00:12:46.689 --> 00:12:52.489
I was asking about the only excuse thing and all that and he says I still don't know where they got that from he says,

370
00:12:52.529 --> 00:12:56.296
because I said did you actually do that he he he thing and he's like no,

371
00:12:56.636 --> 00:12:58.177
I've never done that he says,

372
00:12:58.638 --> 00:13:02.380
he'd made that up what happened was this with that,

373
00:13:02.420 --> 00:13:06.899
because I saw the thing that he said and I'd said to Philip,

374
00:13:06.939 --> 00:13:10.622
I said I kind of remember how we got the laugh and he reminded me

375
00:13:11.598 --> 00:13:11.718
So

376
00:13:12.278 --> 00:13:13.719
I first met Chick,

377
00:13:14.999 --> 00:13:15.699
I think,

378
00:13:17.316 --> 00:13:20.232
I was invited to take part in a 10 at

379
00:13:20.733 --> 00:13:24.173
6s, a Scotland versus England match,

380
00:13:24.674 --> 00:13:26.194
celebrity match if you like,

381
00:13:26.870 --> 00:13:33.208
that was put on between the second semi-final and the final itself to give those,

382
00:13:33.428 --> 00:13:33.848
the guys,

383
00:13:33.849 --> 00:13:34.369
a breather.

384
00:13:35.897 --> 00:13:37.953
And who was on the team?

385
00:13:38.554 --> 00:13:40.274
So it was managed by John Gregg.

386
00:13:40.606 --> 00:13:41.287
The Scotland team.

387
00:13:42.039 --> 00:13:42.299
And

388
00:13:42.679 --> 00:13:43.280
I was in it.

389
00:13:44.569 --> 00:13:45.189
Chick was in it.

390
00:13:45.549 --> 00:13:52.436
Derek Johnson was in it.

391
00:13:52.496 --> 00:13:53.136
Let me just check.

392
00:13:53.577 --> 00:13:54.918
Willie Callican was in it.

393
00:13:54.919 --> 00:13:57.042
He played with Celtic.

394
00:13:58.363 --> 00:14:01.401
I'm not sure if Bobby Lennox was there.

395
00:14:02.125 --> 00:14:02.626
I mean,

396
00:14:03.066 --> 00:14:03.566
with Ducla.

397
00:14:04.263 --> 00:14:04.483
Anyway,

398
00:14:05.179 --> 00:14:07.777
that was roughly the Scottish set-up.

399
00:14:07.778 --> 00:14:09.114
There's a few others as well.

400
00:14:09.454 --> 00:14:10.214
I can't remember.

401
00:14:10.806 --> 00:14:12.307
And so that was the first time I met him.

402
00:14:12.648 --> 00:14:14.870
And I got on great with him.

403
00:14:14.871 --> 00:14:15.750
I didn't start.

404
00:14:16.879 --> 00:14:18.420
Chick's a good footballer,

405
00:14:18.440 --> 00:14:18.680
you know.

406
00:14:18.681 --> 00:14:20.802
He scored a really good goal.

407
00:14:21.302 --> 00:14:23.084
John Greig subbed him right away and put me on.

408
00:14:23.724 --> 00:14:25.706
And he was raging because I was hopeless.

409
00:14:26.206 --> 00:14:26.707
I was not fit.

410
00:14:26.708 --> 00:14:28.148
It was terrible.

411
00:14:28.408 --> 00:14:32.123
I always remember I got hammered by an England team.

412
00:14:32.143 --> 00:14:33.944
They were quite a good out.

413
00:14:34.004 --> 00:14:34.485
We could beat.

414
00:14:35.569 --> 00:14:36.530
But Rick Wakeman.

415
00:14:37.082 --> 00:14:38.927
I was playing,

416
00:14:38.928 --> 00:14:42.649
who I used to go and see in Yes and the Apollo when I was younger,

417
00:14:44.018 --> 00:14:45.178
when Yes toured.

418
00:14:45.727 --> 00:14:46.927
Rick Waitman and John H.

419
00:14:47.047 --> 00:14:47.508
Stacey,

420
00:14:47.976 --> 00:14:49.757
the world champion boxer,

421
00:14:51.153 --> 00:14:54.135
they absolutely nailed me twice against the boards.

422
00:14:54.435 --> 00:14:54.696
I mean,

423
00:14:54.756 --> 00:14:54.916
like,

424
00:14:55.016 --> 00:14:56.176
knocked the stuffing out of me.

425
00:14:56.785 --> 00:14:58.846
But we had a right good laugh,

426
00:14:59.562 --> 00:15:01.403
and on the back of that,

427
00:15:03.252 --> 00:15:06.114
Chick and Derek Johnson were at that time working with Radio Clyde.

428
00:15:07.054 --> 00:15:09.176
And they invited me,

429
00:15:09.177 --> 00:15:12.255
there must have been a spare place at one of their events,

430
00:15:12.435 --> 00:15:13.396
and they invited me along.

431
00:15:14.365 --> 00:15:14.485
And

432
00:15:15.005 --> 00:15:15.746
Philip said to me,

433
00:15:15.846 --> 00:15:16.106
he said,

434
00:15:16.246 --> 00:15:17.548
after that you came in,

435
00:15:17.568 --> 00:15:18.008
you said,

436
00:15:18.965 --> 00:15:20.546
you had a really good night with them.

437
00:15:21.662 --> 00:15:24.906
And Chick had a kind of laugh that we might be able to do something with.

438
00:15:26.410 --> 00:15:35.794
But then any semblance to reality went out the window and I really did a big sort of caricature on it.

439
00:15:36.062 --> 00:15:37.463
Just to give it a wee bit of spike.

440
00:15:37.643 --> 00:15:38.203
That's class.

441
00:15:38.363 --> 00:15:40.624
But that's how it came about,

442
00:15:41.044 --> 00:15:41.204
yeah.

443
00:15:41.712 --> 00:15:45.830
But he'll have told you his story about when he was doing the voiceover.

444
00:15:46.886 --> 00:15:47.907
I don't think he did,

445
00:15:47.967 --> 00:15:48.247
actually.

446
00:15:48.647 --> 00:15:50.208
So he was doing a voiceover for a...

447
00:15:50.708 --> 00:15:51.648
I won't name the company,

448
00:15:51.748 --> 00:15:54.970
but he used to get a free car for this mob on the side.

449
00:15:55.610 --> 00:15:58.659
And they got him in to do a voiceover in Morricans,

450
00:15:58.660 --> 00:16:00.160
where he used to always go and do the voiceovers.

451
00:16:00.868 --> 00:16:03.889
And it started off with a laugh,

452
00:16:03.890 --> 00:16:04.029
right?

453
00:16:05.310 --> 00:16:05.630
This is me,

454
00:16:05.750 --> 00:16:06.210
Chuck Young.

455
00:16:06.290 --> 00:16:07.211
Standing where I am,

456
00:16:07.212 --> 00:16:07.611
would you see it,

457
00:16:07.612 --> 00:16:07.831
right?

458
00:16:07.832 --> 00:16:09.027
And they went,

459
00:16:09.028 --> 00:16:09.147
hey,

460
00:16:09.148 --> 00:16:09.327
cut.

461
00:16:09.735 --> 00:16:10.275
Can you do it again,

462
00:16:10.315 --> 00:16:10.515
please,

463
00:16:10.516 --> 00:16:10.696
Chuck?

464
00:16:11.684 --> 00:16:13.144
Certainly.

465
00:16:13.264 --> 00:16:13.844
And he was going,

466
00:16:13.864 --> 00:16:14.684
he was doing two laughs.

467
00:16:14.685 --> 00:16:14.924
He was going,

468
00:16:15.225 --> 00:16:15.825
hee-hee,

469
00:16:15.826 --> 00:16:16.245
this is me,

470
00:16:16.365 --> 00:16:16.805
Chuck Young,

471
00:16:16.965 --> 00:16:17.165
right?

472
00:16:17.205 --> 00:16:18.305
It's three laughs,

473
00:16:18.345 --> 00:16:18.585
right?

474
00:16:18.665 --> 00:16:18.806
Yeah.

475
00:16:18.807 --> 00:16:21.658
He kept on doing two.

476
00:16:21.659 --> 00:16:22.559
And at the umpteenth time,

477
00:16:22.579 --> 00:16:23.059
eventually he said,

478
00:16:23.419 --> 00:16:23.719
where am I?

479
00:16:23.739 --> 00:16:25.879
What's wrong with my laugh?

480
00:16:26.040 --> 00:16:26.380
What's wrong?

481
00:16:26.700 --> 00:16:27.100
And he said,

482
00:16:27.160 --> 00:16:27.300
wait,

483
00:16:27.480 --> 00:16:27.980
the guy says,

484
00:16:28.520 --> 00:16:29.641
you haven't got it right.

485
00:16:29.642 --> 00:16:30.433
He goes,

486
00:16:30.653 --> 00:16:31.733
it's my fucking laugh.

487
00:16:33.634 --> 00:16:33.754
So,

488
00:16:33.934 --> 00:16:34.134
eh.

489
00:16:34.806 --> 00:16:36.086
That actually did happen.

490
00:16:36.927 --> 00:16:37.047
So,

491
00:16:37.327 --> 00:16:37.467
yeah.

492
00:16:38.191 --> 00:16:38.371
Oh,

493
00:16:38.651 --> 00:16:38.951
man.

494
00:16:39.451 --> 00:16:40.212
I love that story.

495
00:16:40.512 --> 00:16:41.012
It's brilliant.

496
00:16:41.468 --> 00:16:45.645
But was there anybody you ever done that to that didn't take it well?

497
00:16:45.646 --> 00:16:48.626
Because obviously you've done a lot of characters where they've won.

498
00:16:48.726 --> 00:16:50.326
I'm sure there have been.

499
00:16:50.327 --> 00:16:51.147
There have been a couple.

500
00:16:51.287 --> 00:16:53.227
We've heard about a couple over the years.

501
00:16:53.287 --> 00:16:53.407
But,

502
00:16:53.408 --> 00:16:53.627
you know,

503
00:16:53.727 --> 00:16:54.628
by and large,

504
00:16:55.364 --> 00:16:56.024
it's been great.

505
00:16:56.044 --> 00:16:59.629
And I think the reason for that is because the players,

506
00:17:02.077 --> 00:17:02.318
you know,

507
00:17:02.319 --> 00:17:03.338
were kicking about at the time.

508
00:17:04.490 --> 00:17:06.011
They knew that we had a love of the game.

509
00:17:06.271 --> 00:17:06.451
Yeah.

510
00:17:06.651 --> 00:17:06.951
You know?

511
00:17:07.411 --> 00:17:07.531
And,

512
00:17:07.532 --> 00:17:07.751
you know,

513
00:17:07.752 --> 00:17:11.792
when you consider how cruel dressing room banter can be,

514
00:17:11.972 --> 00:17:12.232
you know,

515
00:17:12.593 --> 00:17:14.693
we were actually going easy on them.

516
00:17:15.033 --> 00:17:15.273
You know,

517
00:17:15.274 --> 00:17:15.834
it was mild,

518
00:17:15.835 --> 00:17:16.094
you know?

519
00:17:17.414 --> 00:17:17.534
But

520
00:17:18.074 --> 00:17:24.016
I did a podcast recently with Jackie McNamara and Simon Donnelly,

521
00:17:24.620 --> 00:17:25.420
and Jackie was saying,

522
00:17:25.421 --> 00:17:25.680
he said,

523
00:17:25.681 --> 00:17:25.860
you know,

524
00:17:25.861 --> 00:17:26.180
he said,

525
00:17:27.356 --> 00:17:29.697
if they were sort of rooming together at New Year,

526
00:17:29.737 --> 00:17:32.286
just before they played an old firm game.

527
00:17:33.054 --> 00:17:35.616
They begluted to see if that was the thing they were wondering about.

528
00:17:35.756 --> 00:17:36.557
Who's going to feature?

529
00:17:37.378 --> 00:17:39.159
That took their mind off it.

530
00:17:39.219 --> 00:17:40.741
Aye,

531
00:17:41.101 --> 00:17:42.882
just waiting to see if they're getting flung under the bus.

532
00:17:42.883 --> 00:17:43.263
That's right.

533
00:17:43.264 --> 00:17:44.023
Couldn't they have been nice?

534
00:17:45.024 --> 00:17:48.828
Was there any of the characters that you'd done over the years that you suggested?

535
00:17:49.504 --> 00:17:49.644
Now,

536
00:17:49.684 --> 00:17:50.185
you were saying

537
00:17:50.625 --> 00:17:53.067
Phil said to you you could maybe suggest a character.

538
00:17:53.427 --> 00:17:53.547
Oh,

539
00:17:53.668 --> 00:17:53.888
yeah,

540
00:17:54.008 --> 00:17:54.588
yeah.

541
00:17:54.808 --> 00:17:54.929
Oh,

542
00:17:54.949 --> 00:17:55.089
God,

543
00:17:55.569 --> 00:17:56.210
off the top of my...

544
00:17:56.470 --> 00:17:56.650
Yeah,

545
00:17:57.090 --> 00:17:57.771
I suppose so.

546
00:17:59.364 --> 00:18:00.545
In different stages,

547
00:18:00.546 --> 00:18:00.805
you know,

548
00:18:00.825 --> 00:18:01.646
I would be able to say...

549
00:18:01.998 --> 00:18:02.919
I can do Souness.

550
00:18:03.339 --> 00:18:04.917
I've got Souness right.

551
00:18:04.918 --> 00:18:05.477
I think I can do

552
00:18:05.997 --> 00:18:06.718
Ken Douglas.

553
00:18:06.719 --> 00:18:09.440
It was me,

554
00:18:09.480 --> 00:18:11.862
I can do Dennis Law.

555
00:18:13.003 --> 00:18:13.944
So these are ones,

556
00:18:14.425 --> 00:18:15.005
more recently,

557
00:18:15.766 --> 00:18:17.407
just at the tail end of the programme,

558
00:18:17.944 --> 00:18:19.044
I said I think I can do

559
00:18:19.525 --> 00:18:20.306
Jurgen Klopp.

560
00:18:21.066 --> 00:18:22.668
So he'd get the big teeth in and all that.

561
00:18:22.968 --> 00:18:23.348
So no,

562
00:18:24.825 --> 00:18:30.530
Philip would encourage me to contribute in that way and say there's one that I got.

563
00:18:30.894 --> 00:18:34.356
Sometimes he would give me one that would be very difficult,

564
00:18:34.357 --> 00:18:34.636
you know?

565
00:18:34.937 --> 00:18:35.097
Yeah.

566
00:18:35.157 --> 00:18:39.047
So it was always better if I kind of found it myself,

567
00:18:39.107 --> 00:18:39.407
you know?

568
00:18:39.827 --> 00:18:46.431
And then also suggest little phrases that would help me get the character.

569
00:18:46.791 --> 00:18:47.252
For instance,

570
00:18:47.253 --> 00:18:47.572
the one,

571
00:18:49.356 --> 00:18:50.177
the Soonest one,

572
00:18:50.837 --> 00:18:51.577
Soonest voice,

573
00:18:52.314 --> 00:18:53.054
I was watching,

574
00:18:53.094 --> 00:18:54.015
I was trying to get him,

575
00:18:54.016 --> 00:19:00.058
and I was watching a programme and he was talking about Terry Butcher and he was saying...

576
00:19:00.614 --> 00:19:03.116
He's a better player than I first thought.

577
00:19:03.656 --> 00:19:04.997
So when I got that,

578
00:19:05.277 --> 00:19:08.142
a better player than I first thought,

579
00:19:08.202 --> 00:19:08.903
that was the hook.

580
00:19:09.083 --> 00:19:09.283
Yeah.

581
00:19:09.523 --> 00:19:10.243
And I could do it.

582
00:19:10.503 --> 00:19:12.905
So Philip would try and get that line in.

583
00:19:13.145 --> 00:19:13.365
Yeah.

584
00:19:13.545 --> 00:19:14.446
So things like that,

585
00:19:14.486 --> 00:19:14.746
you know.

586
00:19:15.162 --> 00:19:17.503
And how long would it take you to master a scene?

587
00:19:17.583 --> 00:19:19.605
Were you just sitting watching interview after interview?

588
00:19:19.606 --> 00:19:19.725
No,

589
00:19:20.065 --> 00:19:20.185
no.

590
00:19:20.745 --> 00:19:20.865
No,

591
00:19:20.965 --> 00:19:21.085
no.

592
00:19:21.226 --> 00:19:25.060
Sometimes it just would come quite quickly or it would just come into your head.

593
00:19:25.420 --> 00:19:29.058
But I never sat down and studied.

594
00:19:29.138 --> 00:19:29.738
Because I'm not...

595
00:19:30.470 --> 00:19:31.873
It was um,

596
00:19:31.874 --> 00:19:32.655
it was more than a hobby,

597
00:19:32.675 --> 00:19:32.916
you know,

598
00:19:32.936 --> 00:19:33.497
I'm not um...

599
00:19:35.093 --> 00:19:40.188
I'm not an impressionist in the way that John Culshaw is or

600
00:19:40.628 --> 00:19:41.669
Rory Bremner and

601
00:19:42.429 --> 00:19:43.850
Mark Ford more recently.

602
00:19:43.950 --> 00:19:44.210
I mean,

603
00:19:44.450 --> 00:19:45.711
these guys are amazing,

604
00:19:45.712 --> 00:19:45.971
you know.

605
00:19:45.991 --> 00:19:46.512
And,

606
00:19:46.712 --> 00:19:46.952
you know,

607
00:19:47.372 --> 00:19:49.153
there's a change of Prime Minister.

608
00:19:49.534 --> 00:19:51.695
They can do it brilliantly right like that.

609
00:19:52.075 --> 00:19:52.395
I would,

610
00:19:52.856 --> 00:19:53.956
that's not my bag.

611
00:19:54.617 --> 00:19:54.737
So

612
00:19:56.198 --> 00:19:57.058
I never did that.

613
00:19:57.118 --> 00:20:00.020
It would be if I was driving a car and all of a sudden,

614
00:20:00.844 --> 00:20:01.064
you know,

615
00:20:01.084 --> 00:20:01.905
I'd maybe listen to...

616
00:20:03.025 --> 00:20:03.666
Radio Scotland,

617
00:20:03.667 --> 00:20:04.546
the Radio Clyde,

618
00:20:04.547 --> 00:20:09.250
and I'd hear something and maybe try it and say it felt like I may be able to get him,

619
00:20:09.310 --> 00:20:09.570
you know.

620
00:20:10.311 --> 00:20:12.452
But I never sat down and studied it.

621
00:20:13.005 --> 00:20:17.168
Was there any one of the characters you've done that you absolutely loved doing?

622
00:20:18.429 --> 00:20:19.109
A favourite one?

623
00:20:19.718 --> 00:20:20.258
I enjoyed,

624
00:20:20.358 --> 00:20:21.599
I've got to be honest with you,

625
00:20:21.600 --> 00:20:23.100
I enjoyed doing them all.

626
00:20:25.301 --> 00:20:27.923
And also that kind of depended on what the gag was,

627
00:20:28.083 --> 00:20:30.881
but the one that you couldn't...

628
00:20:31.261 --> 00:20:31.641
Top.

629
00:20:31.781 --> 00:20:33.102
When we did the live shows,

630
00:20:33.103 --> 00:20:36.011
we would always leave this character to the end,

631
00:20:36.012 --> 00:20:37.112
because you couldn't top it,

632
00:20:37.692 --> 00:20:40.413
and that was the Frank McAveney character.

633
00:20:41.333 --> 00:20:41.673
That was,

634
00:20:42.234 --> 00:20:42.674
which was,

635
00:20:43.338 --> 00:20:43.578
you know,

636
00:20:43.618 --> 00:20:45.419
if you're doing a live show,

637
00:20:46.427 --> 00:20:47.828
that was so much fun.

638
00:20:48.148 --> 00:20:48.468
I mean,

639
00:20:49.048 --> 00:20:49.569
you could just,

640
00:20:49.829 --> 00:20:50.129
and you know,

641
00:20:50.469 --> 00:20:52.330
I would do things that I would never normally do.

642
00:20:52.350 --> 00:20:52.670
You know,

643
00:20:53.310 --> 00:20:56.291
I'd start chanting away to Good Look Woman in the front row.

644
00:20:56.471 --> 00:20:57.212
I wouldn't do that,

645
00:20:57.232 --> 00:20:57.352
no,

646
00:20:57.392 --> 00:20:59.213
I'd be too embarrassed,

647
00:20:59.214 --> 00:20:59.433
you know.

648
00:20:59.753 --> 00:21:01.955
But under the guise of Frankie,

649
00:21:01.956 --> 00:21:02.955
I was just let loose.

650
00:21:03.296 --> 00:21:03.456
Easy.

651
00:21:03.516 --> 00:21:06.054
So that was great fun to do.

652
00:21:06.314 --> 00:21:07.635
And looking back,

653
00:21:08.495 --> 00:21:14.996
Tam Cown was reminding Philip and me that one of the last ones we did at the Kings,

654
00:21:15.940 --> 00:21:18.678
we'd sell at the Kings for a week and stuff like that.

655
00:21:18.679 --> 00:21:22.220
I know it's not like the Hydro is still game or won't go,

656
00:21:22.361 --> 00:21:23.501
but at the time,

657
00:21:23.541 --> 00:21:24.922
that was a big deal.

658
00:21:26.307 --> 00:21:27.488
And in the live recording,

659
00:21:28.168 --> 00:21:29.109
there was one woman.

660
00:21:29.469 --> 00:21:57.133
up the back laughing so much you know that way you hear people laugh and it sounds sore yeah well that was like listen to this woman and she just went on for ages i stood for yonks no doing anything just looking at her like that with the teeth in but yeah yeah it was i actually had frank in for a podcast and it was one of my friends who introduced me to frank i spoke to him a few other times in here for something else i hadn't seen him for years and years and years in the paper I'm writing and the

661
00:21:57.697 --> 00:22:00.319
I was just expecting your wee face to pop up,

662
00:22:00.339 --> 00:22:07.242
see when I seen him I was like gutted it wasn't the same and it's the same with Chick as well,

663
00:22:07.302 --> 00:22:08.819
I think for me

664
00:22:10.152 --> 00:22:11.192
Chick Young and

665
00:22:11.532 --> 00:22:20.918
Frank were always just your face was always the thing where you're just like man and it's just the teeth and everything were just magnificent Well I did,

666
00:22:22.639 --> 00:22:26.845
I was one of the first guests when Frank started doing his podcast

667
00:22:28.085 --> 00:22:31.191
And it was great fun.

668
00:22:31.472 --> 00:22:31.832
And he was...

669
00:22:32.092 --> 00:22:33.437
Because,

670
00:22:33.677 --> 00:22:34.778
you know,

671
00:22:34.978 --> 00:22:36.839
where's the birds come from?

672
00:22:36.859 --> 00:22:38.809
Because he always denied it.

673
00:22:38.889 --> 00:22:39.870
Aye.

674
00:22:40.610 --> 00:22:40.990
And I said,

675
00:22:41.010 --> 00:22:41.131
no,

676
00:22:41.171 --> 00:22:41.751
you said it.

677
00:22:41.752 --> 00:22:42.992
He said,

678
00:22:43.012 --> 00:22:43.132
no,

679
00:22:43.152 --> 00:22:43.832
I never know it.

680
00:22:43.833 --> 00:22:44.112
I said,

681
00:22:44.113 --> 00:22:44.753
I'll remind you.

682
00:22:45.569 --> 00:22:45.889
And

683
00:22:47.246 --> 00:22:48.387
I told him the story about...

684
00:22:48.844 --> 00:22:53.583
There was a wee guy who used to work in the props in BBC called Andy Hutton.

685
00:22:53.939 --> 00:22:55.080
He was a big Celtic fan.

686
00:22:55.924 --> 00:22:56.265
And...

687
00:22:57.545 --> 00:23:02.086
Phil and I were walking through the corridors one Monday morning and we bumped into Andy,

688
00:23:02.346 --> 00:23:03.907
did a wee recap of football,

689
00:23:03.908 --> 00:23:04.707
he's a great wee guy.

690
00:23:05.491 --> 00:23:06.844
And he said,

691
00:23:06.845 --> 00:23:09.328
I've got to guess what happened to me on Sunday,

692
00:23:10.525 --> 00:23:11.725
or what I saw on Sunday.

693
00:23:11.865 --> 00:23:12.105
I said,

694
00:23:12.106 --> 00:23:12.485
what's that?

695
00:23:12.957 --> 00:23:13.237
He said,

696
00:23:13.238 --> 00:23:14.158
I was in Baird's Bar,

697
00:23:14.518 --> 00:23:15.358
east end of Glasgow,

698
00:23:16.118 --> 00:23:19.327
and a friend of mine gave any walks in.

699
00:23:19.991 --> 00:23:20.551
He walked in,

700
00:23:20.811 --> 00:23:21.691
had a wee look around,

701
00:23:22.244 --> 00:23:23.144
turned to the bar and said,

702
00:23:23.932 --> 00:23:24.552
where's the birds?

703
00:23:25.208 --> 00:23:25.388
Eh?

704
00:23:25.829 --> 00:23:27.009
And walked out again.

705
00:23:27.513 --> 00:23:28.714
And we were knotting ourselves.

706
00:23:28.774 --> 00:23:29.034
Yep.

707
00:23:29.334 --> 00:23:29.775
And I said,

708
00:23:29.835 --> 00:23:30.015
fuck,

709
00:23:30.055 --> 00:23:30.375
we've got,

710
00:23:30.796 --> 00:23:31.776
we can use that.

711
00:23:31.836 --> 00:23:32.037
Aye.

712
00:23:32.277 --> 00:23:33.358
We can definitely use that.

713
00:23:33.962 --> 00:23:34.522
And Frank goes,

714
00:23:34.943 --> 00:23:35.683
I know what it was.

715
00:23:36.868 --> 00:23:40.995
So this is proof that he actually did say it.

716
00:23:40.996 --> 00:23:44.950
He had bought the franchise of a restaurant,

717
00:23:45.410 --> 00:23:46.331
themed restaurant,

718
00:23:47.699 --> 00:23:48.379
him and his brother.

719
00:23:49.316 --> 00:23:49.756
And it was,

720
00:23:50.356 --> 00:23:54.736
it was merely for guys and sort of stag do's and all that.

721
00:23:55.196 --> 00:23:56.237
But all the waitresses.

722
00:23:56.477 --> 00:23:57.758
were done up as schoolgirls.

723
00:23:57.759 --> 00:24:00.455
It was like a St Trinian's themed thing.

724
00:24:00.615 --> 00:24:00.875
Yeah.

725
00:24:00.876 --> 00:24:02.544
Right?

726
00:24:02.564 --> 00:24:03.264
I remember it.

727
00:24:03.284 --> 00:24:04.865
They had one down in London.

728
00:24:05.417 --> 00:24:05.697
Anyways,

729
00:24:05.897 --> 00:24:07.598
Frank was going to open one up in Glasgow.

730
00:24:08.606 --> 00:24:10.087
And on that particular Sunday,

731
00:24:10.563 --> 00:24:13.784
they were going to interview all the girls that were applying.

732
00:24:14.004 --> 00:24:14.164
Yeah.

733
00:24:14.957 --> 00:24:17.578
And Frank thought he was meeting in Bear's Bar,

734
00:24:17.598 --> 00:24:19.318
but it was in a bar nearby.

735
00:24:19.319 --> 00:24:20.799
It was in Bear's.

736
00:24:20.959 --> 00:24:21.119
Yeah.

737
00:24:21.120 --> 00:24:22.500
So that's why he walked in to Bear's and went,

738
00:24:22.1000 --> 00:24:23.500
where's the birds?

739
00:24:23.501 --> 00:24:25.561
He was thinking it was all them.

740
00:24:25.910 --> 00:24:27.577
But they were across the road somewhere.

741
00:24:27.637 --> 00:24:28.019
God

742
00:24:28.581 --> 00:24:29.244
That was good.

743
00:24:29.746 --> 00:24:30.409
Good memories.

744
00:24:31.772 --> 00:24:32.032
Obviously,

745
00:24:32.332 --> 00:24:33.093
only an excuse,

746
00:24:34.153 --> 00:24:35.834
how did the filming all that work?

747
00:24:35.854 --> 00:24:39.463
Because obviously in the end it became a kind of Hogmanay type thing.

748
00:24:39.683 --> 00:24:41.264
What was the kind of filming schedule for that?

749
00:24:41.444 --> 00:24:43.073
Was that filmed in the summer?

750
00:24:43.233 --> 00:24:44.665
I'm just curious how.

751
00:24:44.865 --> 00:24:47.186
It was filmed probably,

752
00:24:47.819 --> 00:24:50.180
it was usually around about the end of November.

753
00:24:50.460 --> 00:24:50.580
Yeah.

754
00:24:52.040 --> 00:24:54.221
To be delivered by the middle of December.

755
00:24:55.062 --> 00:25:01.196
So we only really covered stories from about...

756
00:25:01.456 --> 00:25:22.749
August September onwards yeah because all these things that had happened early you know till the end of the season or whatever they were kind of forgotten about and uh so we really focused on stuff that was uh that happened from about autumn time onwards yeah and we would film it in the course of about five four or five days uh

757
00:25:22.930 --> 00:25:28.770
so monday to thursday or Monday to Friday and we started out,

758
00:25:29.010 --> 00:25:31.112
we'd film nearly all of it

759
00:25:31.380 --> 00:25:32.140
At Broadwood.

760
00:25:32.521 --> 00:25:33.201
Yeah.

761
00:25:33.721 --> 00:25:35.522
We'd film all the exteriors,

762
00:25:35.782 --> 00:25:36.483
because you'd,

763
00:25:37.027 --> 00:25:37.587
the pitch,

764
00:25:38.324 --> 00:25:39.024
the stands,

765
00:25:39.104 --> 00:25:39.765
all that stuff.

766
00:25:40.205 --> 00:25:45.800
And then they would set up all the sets under the stand.

767
00:25:46.080 --> 00:25:46.880
Yeah.

768
00:25:46.881 --> 00:25:48.962
Where the breeze block was and all that.

769
00:25:49.322 --> 00:25:51.223
So you could do all that and it was soundproof.

770
00:25:51.679 --> 00:25:53.440
Plus we could use the dressing rooms,

771
00:25:53.860 --> 00:25:55.661
we could use the little offices,

772
00:25:55.662 --> 00:25:56.542
the manager's office,

773
00:25:56.902 --> 00:25:58.043
all that was all there,

774
00:25:58.323 --> 00:25:59.003
all in place.

775
00:25:59.627 --> 00:26:00.528
and it was

776
00:26:00.748 --> 00:26:12.778
always freezing it was bitterly cold but great fun but that's where we used to always fall and then latterly we used

777
00:26:13.739 --> 00:26:28.160
Maryhill Juniors and the comedy units soundstage which is in Maryhill as well so that would be sort of replaced that but it was done over the course of a few days and say something

778
00:26:28.840 --> 00:26:30.961
Say something happened that we weren't expecting,

779
00:26:30.962 --> 00:26:35.188
like for instance one year when Dick Advokah was the manager,

780
00:26:35.932 --> 00:26:41.675
he all of a sudden stood down and Big Alec McLeish was appointed for verbs.

781
00:26:42.055 --> 00:26:42.816
That came out of the blue.

782
00:26:43.516 --> 00:26:47.254
And we filmed something very quickly.

783
00:26:48.354 --> 00:26:48.955
I rushed in,

784
00:26:49.503 --> 00:26:50.924
we did it one morning,

785
00:26:51.424 --> 00:26:55.734
and they were able to edit it and put it in and make it up to speed.

786
00:26:55.955 --> 00:26:56.955
We did that a few times,

787
00:26:56.956 --> 00:26:58.136
I'm giving that as an example.

788
00:26:58.580 --> 00:26:59.560
That's the only one I can remember,

789
00:26:59.700 --> 00:27:01.821
but we did that a number of times.

790
00:27:02.201 --> 00:27:04.602
Should a story break that we had to cover,

791
00:27:04.802 --> 00:27:05.802
we'd fire something in.

792
00:27:06.294 --> 00:27:07.034
So we'd do it that way.

793
00:27:07.035 --> 00:27:09.175
About five days to do that?

794
00:27:09.195 --> 00:27:10.495
I just thought it'd been a lot longer,

795
00:27:10.496 --> 00:27:11.036
I don't know why.

796
00:27:11.356 --> 00:27:11.476
No,

797
00:27:13.736 --> 00:27:14.597
you move pretty...

798
00:27:14.598 --> 00:27:15.457
when you do filming,

799
00:27:15.477 --> 00:27:18.250
and the lights have two doors down,

800
00:27:20.078 --> 00:27:23.459
and similarly with years before with City Lights,

801
00:27:23.479 --> 00:27:25.119
you do it about an ebb a week.

802
00:27:25.964 --> 00:27:27.324
So you're filming...

803
00:27:28.336 --> 00:27:29.978
Certainly with two doors,

804
00:27:29.998 --> 00:27:31.859
there's not any studio stuff.

805
00:27:32.760 --> 00:27:37.861
You're filming on a certain location and you're doing a bit of NEP Monday to Friday.

806
00:27:38.413 --> 00:27:42.605
That's roughly the turnaround for a half-hour programme.

807
00:27:42.645 --> 00:27:44.923
That's interesting.

808
00:27:45.624 --> 00:27:46.224
And I take it,

809
00:27:46.585 --> 00:27:47.766
the last thing and only excuse,

810
00:27:48.146 --> 00:27:49.067
will that ever come back?

811
00:27:49.903 --> 00:27:50.023
No.

812
00:27:50.564 --> 00:27:50.764
Never?

813
00:27:51.368 --> 00:27:51.489
No.

814
00:27:53.358 --> 00:27:54.139
What we did do...

815
00:27:56.680 --> 00:28:13.565
We were asked to contribute something for this year's World Cup and we talked it through and I said look if we're going to do something let's do it on the radio and bring it full circle because that's how it started out.

816
00:28:14.314 --> 00:28:20.653
So we did and we had great fun doing it and the other thing to pad it out,

817
00:28:21.317 --> 00:28:25.544
people who had featured in it contributed.

818
00:28:26.044 --> 00:28:30.613
In the same way as when we did the very final one,

819
00:28:31.161 --> 00:28:31.462
which was,

820
00:28:31.762 --> 00:28:35.003
I think it was an hour long for television.

821
00:28:36.019 --> 00:28:37.079
I had six hours,

822
00:28:37.099 --> 00:28:39.580
an awful long time to do sketches.

823
00:28:39.620 --> 00:28:39.880
I said,

824
00:28:39.900 --> 00:28:40.120
look,

825
00:28:40.180 --> 00:28:44.805
why don't we pepper it through with contributions from Dalgleish,

826
00:28:46.950 --> 00:28:47.370
Souness.

827
00:28:48.086 --> 00:28:48.386
I think

828
00:28:48.766 --> 00:28:50.147
Walter was still alive at the time.

829
00:28:50.148 --> 00:28:52.556
I think he contributed as well.

830
00:28:54.836 --> 00:28:55.657
Frank McIverney,

831
00:28:55.877 --> 00:28:56.177
Chick,

832
00:28:56.677 --> 00:28:58.898
all these guys put their tuppence worth in.

833
00:28:59.607 --> 00:29:02.985
So we did a similar thing for the radio thing.

834
00:29:03.345 --> 00:29:03.785
And also

835
00:29:05.142 --> 00:29:08.872
I was joined by my colleague in

836
00:29:09.252 --> 00:29:09.912
Two Doors Down,

837
00:29:10.332 --> 00:29:10.673
Grado.

838
00:29:11.637 --> 00:29:13.958
And he fired in with some voices.

839
00:29:14.158 --> 00:29:16.420
Because he's got a talent for mimicry.

840
00:29:16.740 --> 00:29:19.690
And he does voices that I cannae do.

841
00:29:19.990 --> 00:29:20.250
Aye.

842
00:29:20.430 --> 00:29:23.072
And we have a right good laugh working together.

843
00:29:23.073 --> 00:29:23.192
So,

844
00:29:23.392 --> 00:29:23.672
eh...

845
00:29:23.936 --> 00:29:24.698
So he joined us.

846
00:29:24.999 --> 00:29:27.625
So that was the kind of last kick of the ball of that,

847
00:29:27.626 --> 00:29:28.126
if you like.

848
00:29:28.166 --> 00:29:28.386
Yeah.

849
00:29:28.446 --> 00:29:28.887
But we wouldn't,

850
00:29:29.288 --> 00:29:30.812
it would be wrong to bring it back.

851
00:29:31.152 --> 00:29:31.413
Yeah.

852
00:29:31.433 --> 00:29:31.654
You know,

853
00:29:31.774 --> 00:29:34.400
it was the right time to finish it.

854
00:29:35.680 --> 00:29:39.150
Philip and I were in total agreement about that.

855
00:29:40.555 --> 00:29:42.056
And maybe,

856
00:29:42.256 --> 00:29:42.516
you know,

857
00:29:42.596 --> 00:29:44.345
in the benefit of hindsight,

858
00:29:44.365 --> 00:29:46.282
maybe we should have called it a day,

859
00:29:46.342 --> 00:29:47.823
maybe a couple of years earlier.

860
00:29:47.824 --> 00:29:48.063
Yeah.

861
00:29:48.123 --> 00:29:48.444
But...

862
00:29:49.600 --> 00:29:51.262
We finished strongly,

863
00:29:51.602 --> 00:29:55.065
we finished with the audience with an upward trend,

864
00:29:55.405 --> 00:29:56.466
but it was the right time to pull up.

865
00:29:56.467 --> 00:29:56.867
Aye.

866
00:29:56.887 --> 00:29:57.547
So,

867
00:29:57.767 --> 00:29:58.496
yeah.

868
00:29:58.497 --> 00:29:58.596
Ah,

869
00:29:58.636 --> 00:29:59.096
fair enough,

870
00:29:59.176 --> 00:29:59.657
fair enough.

871
00:29:59.857 --> 00:30:00.378
And obviously,

872
00:30:01.519 --> 00:30:02.159
two doors down,

873
00:30:02.815 --> 00:30:03.536
move on to that.

874
00:30:03.596 --> 00:30:05.798
How are you enjoying doing that?

875
00:30:05.799 --> 00:30:07.159
Is that what you were away recently doing?

876
00:30:08.056 --> 00:30:08.176
So,

877
00:30:08.376 --> 00:30:08.496
no,

878
00:30:09.981 --> 00:30:11.923
well I might have been away for the read-through,

879
00:30:12.143 --> 00:30:14.405
but actually we're about a week today.

880
00:30:16.166 --> 00:30:18.088
I start rehearsals for...

881
00:30:18.716 --> 00:30:19.977
the stage show at the Hydro,

882
00:30:20.957 --> 00:30:23.219
which goes on at the end of September.

883
00:30:24.483 --> 00:30:29.771
There's about five dates there and there's five dates at the end of the first week of October.

884
00:30:30.811 --> 00:30:39.648
So we start rehearsals for that and so that'll be something different because of the size of the venue,

885
00:30:39.808 --> 00:30:40.088
you know.

886
00:30:40.617 --> 00:30:43.518
But so that's my next thing with that.

887
00:30:43.558 --> 00:30:46.228
But then in April next year...

888
00:30:46.960 --> 00:30:49.481
We start filming a new series of that for BBC One.

889
00:30:49.801 --> 00:30:49.961
Yep.

890
00:30:50.422 --> 00:30:50.542
So,

891
00:30:52.146 --> 00:30:52.286
yeah,

892
00:30:52.346 --> 00:30:54.507
that's a very enjoyable job to do.

893
00:30:55.091 --> 00:30:55.211
So,

894
00:30:55.251 --> 00:30:55.912
yeah.

895
00:30:55.913 --> 00:30:57.532
And what else do you do in between times?

896
00:30:57.533 --> 00:30:59.053
What other stuff are you involved in?

897
00:30:59.785 --> 00:31:01.966
So I'm hoping to do a theatre job.

898
00:31:02.686 --> 00:31:06.548
I'm not going to say what it is yet,

899
00:31:06.728 --> 00:31:14.699
but I worked on the development for it down at the National in the South Bank just over a year ago.

900
00:31:15.479 --> 00:31:16.540
And so I'm hoping to...

901
00:31:16.700 --> 00:31:35.471
to do that so I try and do at least one play a year and just other things come up I'm in the process of working with a young writer director who's from Glasgow who's from Springburn and

902
00:31:35.651 --> 00:31:46.212
we're hoping to do something together as well so other things come in you know and you know I do sort of quite a few other projects open to anything

903
00:31:46.872 --> 00:31:47.032
Well,

904
00:31:47.132 --> 00:31:49.674
not everything,

905
00:31:49.774 --> 00:31:51.475
but if it's something that

906
00:31:52.199 --> 00:31:54.080
I quite fancy doing and,

907
00:31:55.209 --> 00:31:55.449
you know,

908
00:31:56.289 --> 00:31:57.110
it's a good part,

909
00:31:57.210 --> 00:31:57.390
yeah.

910
00:31:58.038 --> 00:31:59.399
I think the two doors down,

911
00:31:59.439 --> 00:32:00.460
how long have you been doing that?

912
00:32:00.520 --> 00:32:02.457
It's been on for about 10 odd years,

913
00:32:02.477 --> 00:32:02.857
is it not?

914
00:32:03.077 --> 00:32:05.058
I think it may be slightly longer than that.

915
00:32:05.078 --> 00:32:05.258
Well,

916
00:32:05.378 --> 00:32:06.859
I think we did the first one,

917
00:32:08.844 --> 00:32:10.165
it may be about 12 years ago.

918
00:32:11.345 --> 00:32:14.371
And people called it the pilot.

919
00:32:14.531 --> 00:32:15.752
It was a one hour special.

920
00:32:16.548 --> 00:32:17.509
But it wasn't a pilot.

921
00:32:17.809 --> 00:32:18.109
It was,

922
00:32:18.929 --> 00:32:20.130
what happened was,

923
00:32:21.454 --> 00:32:22.415
there had been a slot,

924
00:32:23.496 --> 00:32:27.802
a 9pm slot on BBC One on New Year's Eve.

925
00:32:29.190 --> 00:32:32.619
And the person who was meant to fill it,

926
00:32:33.431 --> 00:32:34.252
for whatever reason,

927
00:32:34.372 --> 00:32:38.677
pulled out and they were left with a gap.

928
00:32:39.770 --> 00:32:40.070
And

929
00:32:40.610 --> 00:32:44.644
Simon Calell and Gregor Sharp had written this script,

930
00:32:44.684 --> 00:32:45.104
I think of...

931
00:32:45.184 --> 00:32:54.107
probably about a year or so before and it was on the shelf and it had been put forward again and right,

932
00:32:54.747 --> 00:32:55.408
let's do this.

933
00:32:55.648 --> 00:32:58.246
And we were all assembled very quickly.

934
00:32:58.547 --> 00:32:58.667
Yeah.

935
00:32:58.668 --> 00:32:58.827
I mean,

936
00:32:58.828 --> 00:32:59.427
I got a call.

937
00:33:00.536 --> 00:33:03.478
It was something like on a Wednesday from my agent,

938
00:33:03.839 --> 00:33:08.603
can you go down tomorrow to meet Simon and the producer and the director.

939
00:33:09.135 --> 00:33:09.956
Went down and met them.

940
00:33:10.880 --> 00:33:13.559
The deal was done the next day and that was it.

941
00:33:13.599 --> 00:33:14.740
And then a few days later.

942
00:33:15.372 --> 00:33:15.492
Well,

943
00:33:15.532 --> 00:33:16.794
it was a couple of weeks later,

944
00:33:17.234 --> 00:33:18.155
we're all assembled,

945
00:33:18.920 --> 00:33:23.643
and we filmed for ten days straight,

946
00:33:24.431 --> 00:33:26.293
from 8am to 8pm,

947
00:33:26.898 --> 00:33:30.128
in this wee council house in Paisley.

948
00:33:30.148 --> 00:33:33.692
There's about 60 folk in it,

949
00:33:33.693 --> 00:33:34.693
you can only swing a cat.

950
00:33:35.254 --> 00:33:35.554
And,

951
00:33:36.975 --> 00:33:37.135
yeah,

952
00:33:37.215 --> 00:33:39.585
so we filmed it,

953
00:33:39.705 --> 00:33:42.507
and it went out on Hogman 8,

954
00:33:42.508 --> 00:33:42.888
and I think...

955
00:33:43.748 --> 00:33:49.664
Because social media was just about beginning to kick in and have an influence,

956
00:33:51.464 --> 00:33:54.126
people picked up on it and were going nuts over it.

957
00:33:54.346 --> 00:33:55.427
Not just in Scotland,

958
00:33:55.447 --> 00:33:56.923
but all over the UK.

959
00:33:57.424 --> 00:33:57.624
Yep.

960
00:33:58.184 --> 00:34:00.145
Because it went out in the network,

961
00:34:02.050 --> 00:34:02.790
but it did the trick,

962
00:34:03.171 --> 00:34:03.871
good write-ups.

963
00:34:04.171 --> 00:34:06.489
And early in

964
00:34:06.989 --> 00:34:08.590
January, it was decided,

965
00:34:09.350 --> 00:34:10.391
this will go to a series.

966
00:34:10.591 --> 00:34:10.791
Yep.

967
00:34:11.432 --> 00:34:12.072
But it was about...

968
00:34:12.892 --> 00:34:22.621
It was about a year or so later that we started work on the series and there was it was me,

969
00:34:23.854 --> 00:34:24.135
Dune,

970
00:34:24.195 --> 00:34:25.734
who plays my wife Kathy,

971
00:34:26.619 --> 00:34:27.200
Arabella.

972
00:34:30.036 --> 00:34:30.336
We are

973
00:34:31.268 --> 00:34:33.930
Alex Norton and Sian Rooney.

974
00:34:34.582 --> 00:34:35.663
We were the only ones,

975
00:34:35.664 --> 00:34:36.083
I think,

976
00:34:36.727 --> 00:34:39.545
that survived that one hour special.

977
00:34:39.725 --> 00:34:39.905
Yeah.

978
00:34:40.614 --> 00:34:40.974
And,

979
00:34:42.306 --> 00:34:42.506
yeah,

980
00:34:42.627 --> 00:34:42.747
so,

981
00:34:43.067 --> 00:34:43.227
yeah,

982
00:34:43.707 --> 00:34:44.848
it's been great to do.

983
00:34:45.556 --> 00:34:46.577
And we thought,

984
00:34:47.297 --> 00:34:48.218
I don't know if you know or not,

985
00:34:48.238 --> 00:34:49.583
but one of the writers,

986
00:34:49.623 --> 00:34:50.263
Simon Carlyle,

987
00:34:50.483 --> 00:34:52.845
tragically died a couple of years ago.

988
00:34:53.145 --> 00:34:55.938
It's probably just over a couple of years ago now.

989
00:34:56.690 --> 00:34:58.191
And we kind of thought...

990
00:34:59.147 --> 00:35:00.944
That was it.

991
00:35:01.224 --> 00:35:02.224
We'd never do it again.

992
00:35:02.776 --> 00:35:04.517
Because we were due to do another series,

993
00:35:04.857 --> 00:35:06.097
we were due to do the Hydro,

994
00:35:08.898 --> 00:35:11.406
but Gregor couldn't cope with doing it on his own.

995
00:35:11.646 --> 00:35:11.867
Aye.

996
00:35:12.387 --> 00:35:14.867
And then with the passage of time and all that,

997
00:35:15.684 --> 00:35:15.884
and

998
00:35:16.504 --> 00:35:16.724
I think,

999
00:35:16.764 --> 00:35:16.984
you know,

1000
00:35:17.044 --> 00:35:18.044
for Simon's memory,

1001
00:35:18.900 --> 00:35:21.141
he began to start writing again.

1002
00:35:21.361 --> 00:35:23.142
And we did a...

1003
00:35:23.934 --> 00:35:24.514
Last summer,

1004
00:35:24.794 --> 00:35:26.255
we filmed a Christmas special,

1005
00:35:27.023 --> 00:35:28.583
which did well.

1006
00:35:29.907 --> 00:35:31.368
But before we did that,

1007
00:35:31.768 --> 00:35:38.742
we knew he was hoping to do the hydro and also do a series as well.

1008
00:35:39.450 --> 00:35:39.570
So,

1009
00:35:40.718 --> 00:35:40.918
yeah,

1010
00:35:40.919 --> 00:35:42.439
I'm looking forward to getting started on it.

1011
00:35:42.559 --> 00:35:44.255
I'll be mad.

1012
00:35:45.111 --> 00:35:47.552
Obviously you're used to being behind a camera.

1013
00:35:48.536 --> 00:35:51.933
Do you get nervous around in front of big crowds?

1014
00:35:52.573 --> 00:35:52.773
Well,

1015
00:35:54.598 --> 00:35:56.738
you get a wee bit of adrenaline.

1016
00:35:56.998 --> 00:35:57.399
the same

1017
00:35:57.747 --> 00:35:59.248
It'd be wrong if you didn't.

1018
00:35:59.268 --> 00:36:01.270
You want to be hyped up a wee bit.

1019
00:36:01.843 --> 00:36:02.143
But no,

1020
00:36:02.403 --> 00:36:04.044
that's part of the buzz,

1021
00:36:04.065 --> 00:36:06.106
that's part of the thrill of doing it.

1022
00:36:06.547 --> 00:36:06.827
You know,

1023
00:36:08.048 --> 00:36:09.169
certainly the live shows.

1024
00:36:09.817 --> 00:36:10.138
And

1025
00:36:11.119 --> 00:36:12.300
I enjoy that aspect,

1026
00:36:12.440 --> 00:36:13.741
I enjoy that side of it.

1027
00:36:14.121 --> 00:36:14.381
I mean,

1028
00:36:14.501 --> 00:36:18.456
you get people who absolutely are terrified.

1029
00:36:18.576 --> 00:36:18.776
Yeah.

1030
00:36:19.057 --> 00:36:19.317
You know,

1031
00:36:19.657 --> 00:36:22.580
and that's one of the reasons I try and do a play every year.

1032
00:36:23.292 --> 00:36:24.053
It's because of that.

1033
00:36:24.433 --> 00:36:26.535
I remember I did a job once.

1034
00:36:26.775 --> 00:36:39.580
it was a theatre job and the actor was a lot more experienced than me he hadn't done a play for about seven years and you could hear him throwing up every night before he went on and I thought that ain't me that's not going to happen to me so

1035
00:36:40.240 --> 00:36:48.876
I try and do a play every year and I've got a lot of good friends that I like working and collaborating with in that particular field so

1036
00:36:49.276 --> 00:36:55.219
I'm fortunate from that point of view as well it makes sense because I speak I've done YouTube for years so I've got like

1037
00:36:55.943 --> 00:36:59.406
Millions of subscribers on YouTube for my business channel as well as the podcast.

1038
00:37:00.279 --> 00:37:02.701
And obviously for me it's just like when you're filming,

1039
00:37:02.841 --> 00:37:03.081
you know,

1040
00:37:03.181 --> 00:37:04.682
in the comedy studio,

1041
00:37:04.782 --> 00:37:05.843
you've just got a couple of cameras,

1042
00:37:05.844 --> 00:37:07.585
you don't realise how many people are watching.

1043
00:37:07.965 --> 00:37:10.708
But I remember my first ever live speaking event at a conference,

1044
00:37:11.708 --> 00:37:13.509
and it was there was only 30 people there in London,

1045
00:37:13.570 --> 00:37:15.671
and I had a bead of sweat dripping off the end of my nose.

1046
00:37:15.672 --> 00:37:17.613
I locked myself up into a frenzy,

1047
00:37:17.693 --> 00:37:17.893
just,

1048
00:37:18.193 --> 00:37:18.814
I don't know why,

1049
00:37:18.815 --> 00:37:20.896
because it was comfortable speaking in front of a camera,

1050
00:37:20.976 --> 00:37:22.833
but just that thought of seeing people,

1051
00:37:23.494 --> 00:37:24.375
but obviously with time.

1052
00:37:24.695 --> 00:37:29.196
I think obviously you just get out and doing a play a year or whatever just kind of eases it a bit.

1053
00:37:29.197 --> 00:37:29.276
Yeah,

1054
00:37:29.277 --> 00:37:29.776
it just builds it up.

1055
00:37:30.077 --> 00:37:30.217
But,

1056
00:37:30.277 --> 00:37:30.497
you know,

1057
00:37:30.517 --> 00:37:33.794
it's funny you say that because playing to the likes of 30,

1058
00:37:34.234 --> 00:37:38.191
that's actually more difficult than probably playing to 300.

1059
00:37:38.291 --> 00:37:38.451
Yeah.

1060
00:37:38.691 --> 00:37:38.971
You know,

1061
00:37:39.231 --> 00:37:40.607
so

1062
00:37:41.548 --> 00:37:42.568
I know exactly what you mean.

1063
00:37:42.628 --> 00:37:48.153
I know because I've done it in front of 6,000 people and all I can really see is the lights and that.

1064
00:37:48.154 --> 00:37:50.194
You can see about five faces at the front.

1065
00:37:50.214 --> 00:37:51.074
You can't really see anything.

1066
00:37:51.075 --> 00:37:52.094
So a bigger crowd is easier,

1067
00:37:52.135 --> 00:37:52.695
but the 30,

1068
00:37:52.715 --> 00:37:53.275
I was just like...

1069
00:37:53.867 --> 00:37:54.668
I cannae see Emre.

1070
00:37:56.309 --> 00:37:57.070
I black it out.

1071
00:37:57.170 --> 00:37:57.690
I don't,

1072
00:37:57.710 --> 00:37:58.271
I mean,

1073
00:37:58.591 --> 00:37:59.452
Gerard Kelly,

1074
00:37:59.453 --> 00:38:00.513
he said,

1075
00:38:00.593 --> 00:38:01.594
she was in tonight,

1076
00:38:01.595 --> 00:38:03.135
he could pick people out.

1077
00:38:03.136 --> 00:38:07.526
I remember my wife and son came to see me at a thing in Glasgow.

1078
00:38:07.527 --> 00:38:07.686
I said,

1079
00:38:07.687 --> 00:38:08.367
where were you sitting?

1080
00:38:09.015 --> 00:38:09.616
And the guy goes,

1081
00:38:10.084 --> 00:38:10.684
the front row.

1082
00:38:10.724 --> 00:38:13.266
Didn't even know.

1083
00:38:13.647 --> 00:38:14.047
Nah,

1084
00:38:14.287 --> 00:38:14.988
it's mad.

1085
00:38:15.508 --> 00:38:19.912
But I was just curious though if there was a difference of the kind of life thing.

1086
00:38:20.172 --> 00:38:21.233
There's a huge difference.

1087
00:38:21.253 --> 00:38:23.315
It's a completely different...

1088
00:38:23.767 --> 00:38:44.894
discipline you know and also in the playing of it as well you know but when you're in front of the camera you you've got to pull it back quite a bit but as when we do the hydro it will be lifted up a little bit you know i mean it won't be over the top but it's it'll be slightly different for it so you you get it across you know yeah

1089
00:38:45.034 --> 00:38:52.415
and is it the full grade on everything doing all of this life the whole cast yeah yeah the i think there's eight is that eight of us that's it's yeah So.

1090
00:38:54.163 --> 00:38:55.024
Maybe nine of us.

1091
00:38:55.484 --> 00:38:56.345
It's the whole cast,

1092
00:38:56.925 --> 00:38:57.906
so we're all in it.

1093
00:38:57.926 --> 00:38:59.070
That'll be fun.

1094
00:38:59.130 --> 00:39:00.191
I might try and get along to that,

1095
00:39:00.231 --> 00:39:00.531
actually.

1096
00:39:01.232 --> 00:39:02.073
If there's tickets left,

1097
00:39:02.074 --> 00:39:03.273
I don't know if it's sold out or not.

1098
00:39:03.514 --> 00:39:06.115
The first five,

1099
00:39:06.195 --> 00:39:06.476
I think,

1100
00:39:06.516 --> 00:39:08.817
are pretty much sold out at the end of September.

1101
00:39:09.265 --> 00:39:13.276
But I think there are a few that are available in October.

1102
00:39:13.556 --> 00:39:14.817
Yeah.

1103
00:39:14.818 --> 00:39:16.378
I'll have a swatch and see what happens.

1104
00:39:17.439 --> 00:39:19.452
And for other things,

1105
00:39:19.492 --> 00:39:23.015
is there anything else that you've got in the pipeline or you would like to do?

1106
00:39:23.820 --> 00:39:24.300
Is there anything,

1107
00:39:24.301 --> 00:39:25.761
because obviously you've done quite a lot,

1108
00:39:25.781 --> 00:39:26.621
you've been City Lights,

1109
00:39:26.641 --> 00:39:27.878
you've done all of that,

1110
00:39:27.879 --> 00:39:29.399
is there anything you would like to go and do?

1111
00:39:30.071 --> 00:39:30.191
No,

1112
00:39:30.971 --> 00:39:36.545
I don't set myself a specific programme or anything like that,

1113
00:39:36.546 --> 00:39:36.745
you know,

1114
00:39:36.965 --> 00:39:38.206
I want to be in that and all that.

1115
00:39:38.207 --> 00:39:38.226
I,

1116
00:39:38.227 --> 00:39:41.435
you know,

1117
00:39:41.436 --> 00:39:45.625
I work closely with my agent and what's coming up and what,

1118
00:39:45.685 --> 00:39:47.426
you know,

1119
00:39:47.427 --> 00:39:50.567
what I might be suitable for and things like that and approach it that way.

1120
00:39:50.787 --> 00:39:51.047
Yeah.

1121
00:39:51.187 --> 00:39:51.728
But I think...

1122
00:39:53.400 --> 00:39:53.900
Because you never,

1123
00:39:53.980 --> 00:39:54.501
the thing is,

1124
00:39:54.681 --> 00:39:55.521
in this game,

1125
00:39:56.457 --> 00:39:58.718
things can change in a minute.

1126
00:39:58.738 --> 00:39:59.038
Yeah.

1127
00:39:59.039 --> 00:39:59.739
With a phone call.

1128
00:40:00.099 --> 00:40:00.239
Yeah.

1129
00:40:00.259 --> 00:40:00.539
You know?

1130
00:40:01.139 --> 00:40:01.259
So,

1131
00:40:03.184 --> 00:40:05.505
you try not to think too far ahead.

1132
00:40:05.585 --> 00:40:05.865
Yeah.

1133
00:40:05.866 --> 00:40:07.866
But I'm busy with it in the next year,

1134
00:40:07.986 --> 00:40:08.106
so

1135
00:40:09.203 --> 00:40:11.671
I'm not really focusing on,

1136
00:40:12.052 --> 00:40:12.332
you know.

1137
00:40:12.632 --> 00:40:13.472
Further forward than that.

1138
00:40:13.473 --> 00:40:14.353
Further forward than that,

1139
00:40:14.673 --> 00:40:15.113
just now,

1140
00:40:15.353 --> 00:40:15.473
so,

1141
00:40:15.773 --> 00:40:16.073
yeah.

1142
00:40:16.233 --> 00:40:17.214
Has that always been the same,

1143
00:40:17.234 --> 00:40:17.394
though,

1144
00:40:17.395 --> 00:40:18.114
like for an actor,

1145
00:40:18.134 --> 00:40:21.616
just see what happens and go with the flow and see what rabbit hole you go down?

1146
00:40:21.896 --> 00:40:22.036
Well.

1147
00:40:22.436 --> 00:40:22.957
Yeah,

1148
00:40:23.177 --> 00:40:29.877
I've always sort of had a few months in advance,

1149
00:40:29.878 --> 00:40:30.417
so I know what

1150
00:40:30.797 --> 00:40:31.438
I'm going to be doing.

1151
00:40:31.439 --> 00:40:35.657
So that gives me the backup to try and get something for after that.

1152
00:40:35.757 --> 00:40:38.099
So that's how I sort of approach it.

1153
00:40:38.459 --> 00:40:40.240
I'm in a very fortunate position.

1154
00:40:40.460 --> 00:40:42.582
I know it's not always the case,

1155
00:40:42.982 --> 00:40:44.103
but that's what I try and do.

1156
00:40:44.812 --> 00:40:44.972
Yeah.

1157
00:40:45.752 --> 00:40:46.013
You know,

1158
00:40:46.113 --> 00:40:47.858
because I'm always...

1159
00:40:47.878 --> 00:40:51.676
On other occasions I've been asked by...

1160
00:40:52.164 --> 00:41:12.926
people coming into the business you know you know advice what not and i always say to you know you're in charge of your own destiny here yeah it's up to you you can don't listen to all the different things you're told about been hard and all that you can make it happen you know you it's within your power yeah

1161
00:41:12.927 --> 00:41:20.988
try and get these things and encourage them that way you know well i'll tell i'll tell you a funny story uh i've done a bit of acting but you

1162
00:41:21.108 --> 00:41:21.989
bullshitted my way in,

1163
00:41:22.049 --> 00:41:22.649
right?

1164
00:41:24.038 --> 00:41:25.019
I'm a marketing guy,

1165
00:41:25.039 --> 00:41:29.142
so I do digital marketing and I needed this thing called a knowledge panel on Google.

1166
00:41:29.302 --> 00:41:30.743
The only way I could do it,

1167
00:41:30.803 --> 00:41:32.004
I launched an Amazon book,

1168
00:41:32.024 --> 00:41:32.664
a Google book,

1169
00:41:32.804 --> 00:41:33.805
done all of this kind of stuff,

1170
00:41:34.281 --> 00:41:36.143
but it kept telling me I needed to be an INDB.

1171
00:41:37.047 --> 00:41:39.569
But I didn't even know what INDB was.

1172
00:41:40.129 --> 00:41:40.549
So anyway,

1173
00:41:40.550 --> 00:41:46.434
I went on there and I put my name in and they come up saying there was a guy in a porn flick in 2009 but he hadn't claimed his profile.

1174
00:41:47.434 --> 00:41:48.775
So I went in and I've clicked,

1175
00:41:48.795 --> 00:41:49.616
claimed his profile.

1176
00:41:49.796 --> 00:41:51.177
and it's asked me to upload my passport,

1177
00:41:51.577 --> 00:41:51.978
job done.

1178
00:41:52.018 --> 00:41:53.379
So I put my picture on and said,

1179
00:41:53.479 --> 00:41:55.040
Craig's a business guy,

1180
00:41:55.100 --> 00:41:55.740
marketing guy,

1181
00:41:56.001 --> 00:41:57.141
and he's also a bit of an actor.

1182
00:41:58.202 --> 00:41:58.422
Anyway,

1183
00:41:58.642 --> 00:41:59.563
about three months after,

1184
00:42:00.443 --> 00:42:00.864
a woman,

1185
00:42:00.884 --> 00:42:02.885
because it slips into my DMs on Facebook,

1186
00:42:02.925 --> 00:42:03.386
and she says,

1187
00:42:03.466 --> 00:42:03.666
Craig,

1188
00:42:03.667 --> 00:42:04.286
are you an actor?

1189
00:42:04.506 --> 00:42:04.827
And I say,

1190
00:42:04.828 --> 00:42:05.507
I am,

1191
00:42:05.667 --> 00:42:05.887
aye,

1192
00:42:05.888 --> 00:42:06.048
how?

1193
00:42:06.568 --> 00:42:07.148
And she says,

1194
00:42:07.208 --> 00:42:07.389
yeah.

1195
00:42:08.009 --> 00:42:08.589
She says,

1196
00:42:09.722 --> 00:42:09.862
well,

1197
00:42:09.863 --> 00:42:10.242
what it is,

1198
00:42:10.602 --> 00:42:14.025
my husband's got the same name as you and your face is plastered all over his profile.

1199
00:42:14.325 --> 00:42:15.066
So I'm sitting going,

1200
00:42:16.198 --> 00:42:16.658
fuck's sake.

1201
00:42:16.659 --> 00:42:17.439
The porn star?

1202
00:42:17.779 --> 00:42:18.039
Aye,

1203
00:42:18.040 --> 00:42:18.700
the porn star.

1204
00:42:19.080 --> 00:42:20.521
I'm like fucking hell so anyway

1205
00:42:21.010 --> 00:42:31.105
I blocked her and I went to River City and there was I just went to the River City thing and it said Boy B was in episode 236 and nobody knew who it was so I said it was me

1206
00:42:31.966 --> 00:42:37.606
I'd done the same with Tiger and I'd done it with a few other things where they didn't know who the actor was so anyway I was just hoping that

1207
00:42:38.042 --> 00:42:45.468
I was I was trying to skew this guy's profile anyway another three months passes by nothing happened I thought that woman was going to report me to IMDB you

1208
00:42:46.108 --> 00:42:49.010
Another three months goes by and a guy messaged me and said Craig are you an actor?

1209
00:42:49.011 --> 00:42:49.691
And I'm like oh no,

1210
00:42:49.891 --> 00:42:50.691
no that's crap again.

1211
00:42:51.172 --> 00:42:51.952
He said I'll tell you what it is,

1212
00:42:51.972 --> 00:42:54.054
I've seen you've been in River City and I've seen you've done a bit.

1213
00:42:54.522 --> 00:42:56.503
Do you want to be in this crime series in Glasgow?

1214
00:42:57.036 --> 00:42:59.241
And I'm like,

1215
00:42:59.321 --> 00:42:59.741
why not?

1216
00:43:00.382 --> 00:43:02.943
So he came and met me and we agreed to be in it and all that kind of stuff.

1217
00:43:04.184 --> 00:43:04.304
So

1218
00:43:04.684 --> 00:43:05.925
I went in and obviously

1219
00:43:06.266 --> 00:43:07.086
I've done the acting,

1220
00:43:07.306 --> 00:43:08.207
bullshitted my way in,

1221
00:43:08.487 --> 00:43:08.827
got it.

1222
00:43:09.208 --> 00:43:13.290
Now because I had been in five or six different end screen credits according to IMDB,

1223
00:43:13.291 --> 00:43:15.292
I was able to get Spotlight like that.

1224
00:43:15.636 --> 00:43:16.217
Oh God,

1225
00:43:16.237 --> 00:43:16.597
you're in

1226
00:43:17.037 --> 00:43:17.578
Spotlight as well?

1227
00:43:17.579 --> 00:43:19.059
I'm in Spotlight and everything.

1228
00:43:19.099 --> 00:43:20.552
And the guy's like,

1229
00:43:20.612 --> 00:43:21.333
do you know people,

1230
00:43:21.393 --> 00:43:23.354
you were talking about you went to drama school and all that.

1231
00:43:23.355 --> 00:43:23.574
He said,

1232
00:43:23.575 --> 00:43:25.416
do you know that people have been to drama school and everything?

1233
00:43:25.456 --> 00:43:26.337
Can I get on Spotlight?

1234
00:43:26.338 --> 00:43:33.102
Because I think on Spotlight you need to be in five end screen credits to trigger your profile.

1235
00:43:33.122 --> 00:43:34.684
I'd be fucking bullshitting my way in.

1236
00:43:34.884 --> 00:43:36.485
And I've been in a few other wee things as well.

1237
00:43:37.386 --> 00:43:40.668
I'll keep it quiet.

1238
00:43:40.669 --> 00:43:41.889
I tell it everywhere I go anyway.

1239
00:43:42.190 --> 00:43:43.811
But great story and I enjoyed it.

1240
00:43:43.812 --> 00:43:44.692
that batty I'm drawing

1241
00:43:45.488 --> 00:43:48.350
I was just curious if it was that easy just to bullshit your way,

1242
00:43:48.530 --> 00:43:51.292
when you're saying you're going to charge your own destiny.

1243
00:43:51.472 --> 00:43:51.592
So,

1244
00:43:52.373 --> 00:43:52.633
I mean,

1245
00:43:52.693 --> 00:43:52.953
when I,

1246
00:43:53.033 --> 00:43:55.974
I'm just trying to think,

1247
00:43:56.274 --> 00:43:57.115
it's all changed,

1248
00:43:58.636 --> 00:44:01.197
the system and the way of getting into it has all changed.

1249
00:44:01.198 --> 00:44:01.357
I mean,

1250
00:44:01.398 --> 00:44:02.838
when I started,

1251
00:44:04.403 --> 00:44:05.563
you had to have an equity card,

1252
00:44:05.684 --> 00:44:06.804
you had to have a union card,

1253
00:44:07.357 --> 00:44:09.318
and you couldn't get a union card without a job.

1254
00:44:09.478 --> 00:44:09.638
Yeah.

1255
00:44:09.718 --> 00:44:10.899
It was like catch 22.

1256
00:44:11.631 --> 00:44:12.752
And so...

1257
00:44:14.063 --> 00:44:15.704
People did all kinds of things.

1258
00:44:15.744 --> 00:44:18.863
People sang in pubs and all that.

1259
00:44:19.123 --> 00:44:19.843
I cannae sing,

1260
00:44:19.863 --> 00:44:20.944
so that was the question.

1261
00:44:21.304 --> 00:44:23.026
But I auditioned for the sits.

1262
00:44:23.822 --> 00:44:25.539
And they would have...

1263
00:44:26.360 --> 00:44:28.449
Their main company,

1264
00:44:28.930 --> 00:44:29.730
TIEE company,

1265
00:44:30.130 --> 00:44:34.950
had two equity cards to hand out each year to kids that they thought had potential.

1266
00:44:35.070 --> 00:44:35.250
Yep.

1267
00:44:35.531 --> 00:44:35.651
So

1268
00:44:36.131 --> 00:44:40.402
I auditioned for the main company and the guy who was artistic director of

1269
00:44:41.038 --> 00:44:41.439
Tag,

1270
00:44:42.391 --> 00:44:45.073
Alex Norton and Billy Patterson worked in.

1271
00:44:45.637 --> 00:44:50.641
He's up the back and he contacted me and he offered me a job and said,

1272
00:44:50.961 --> 00:44:52.082
you get your equity card.

1273
00:44:52.282 --> 00:44:53.323
So that's how I got mine.

1274
00:44:53.523 --> 00:44:54.664
Yeah.

1275
00:44:54.665 --> 00:44:55.685
And then after that,

1276
00:44:57.245 --> 00:44:57.585
I don't,

1277
00:44:58.626 --> 00:45:00.287
the credits thing for Spotlight,

1278
00:45:00.547 --> 00:45:02.008
I think that's a fairly new thing.

1279
00:45:02.189 --> 00:45:02.329
Yeah.

1280
00:45:02.389 --> 00:45:02.789
You just,

1281
00:45:03.169 --> 00:45:04.871
you put yourself in Spotlight,

1282
00:45:04.951 --> 00:45:05.951
that was the director.

1283
00:45:05.991 --> 00:45:06.612
Yeah.

1284
00:45:06.732 --> 00:45:09.034
IMDB is a very new thing now.

1285
00:45:09.274 --> 00:45:09.414
Yeah.

1286
00:45:09.554 --> 00:45:10.955
And it's perhaps the best.

1287
00:45:12.588 --> 00:45:15.990
tool people have to check folk out now.

1288
00:45:16.471 --> 00:45:17.691
Even more so than Spotlight.

1289
00:45:18.316 --> 00:45:18.436
So,

1290
00:45:19.573 --> 00:45:19.773
you know,

1291
00:45:19.774 --> 00:45:20.453
so to get in that,

1292
00:45:20.533 --> 00:45:21.194
that's no bad.

1293
00:45:21.434 --> 00:45:22.575
That's no bad for a bullshitter.

1294
00:45:22.855 --> 00:45:24.536
It's winged my way in.

1295
00:45:24.736 --> 00:45:25.036
But aye,

1296
00:45:25.076 --> 00:45:25.917
I was just curious,

1297
00:45:25.918 --> 00:45:26.718
so any actors,

1298
00:45:27.318 --> 00:45:27.958
it can be done.

1299
00:45:28.319 --> 00:45:28.859
But obviously

1300
00:45:29.655 --> 00:45:30.796
Jonathan's not condoning it.

1301
00:45:30.797 --> 00:45:33.978
Has there ever been jobs you've went for where they went,

1302
00:45:34.038 --> 00:45:34.219
nah,

1303
00:45:34.319 --> 00:45:34.779
no chance,

1304
00:45:34.780 --> 00:45:37.021
you're not a good fit for us because of,

1305
00:45:37.721 --> 00:45:39.082
maybe because you're a funny guy,

1306
00:45:39.083 --> 00:45:40.323
do you think that kind of thing's...

1307
00:45:40.895 --> 00:45:41.836
Harden you with certain roles?

1308
00:45:42.096 --> 00:45:42.396
Yes,

1309
00:45:42.397 --> 00:45:43.297
it probably has,

1310
00:45:43.377 --> 00:45:44.077
yeah.

1311
00:45:44.438 --> 00:45:44.678
I mean,

1312
00:45:44.698 --> 00:45:46.699
I can't think of anything offhand,

1313
00:45:46.799 --> 00:45:54.304
but there are certain jobs that might not look at me because of the comedy background,

1314
00:45:54.305 --> 00:45:55.105
but that's fine.

1315
00:45:56.045 --> 00:46:00.628
A lot of the drama stuff I get is from down south,

1316
00:46:01.169 --> 00:46:04.411
so they don't really view me in the same way,

1317
00:46:04.731 --> 00:46:04.991
you know?

1318
00:46:05.872 --> 00:46:08.134
Although that's beginning to change slightly because of

1319
00:46:08.510 --> 00:46:09.330
Two Doors Down,

1320
00:46:09.839 --> 00:46:09.959
but...

1321
00:46:11.844 --> 00:46:12.024
yeah,

1322
00:46:12.605 --> 00:46:13.165
it's fine,

1323
00:46:13.166 --> 00:46:17.029
it doesn't really it's not a big thing but there will be things,

1324
00:46:17.229 --> 00:46:18.450
but you know that happens,

1325
00:46:18.810 --> 00:46:21.464
it doesn't matter how famous you are,

1326
00:46:21.504 --> 00:46:23.146
how well known you are,

1327
00:46:23.426 --> 00:46:25.347
like I'm talking about mega famous,

1328
00:46:25.387 --> 00:46:32.313
like big film stars there'll always be jobs that you don't you want to do,

1329
00:46:32.393 --> 00:46:34.138
and you don't get people,

1330
00:46:34.139 --> 00:46:34.358
you know,

1331
00:46:34.915 --> 00:46:39.559
you've got that's the thing that they don't teach at drama colleges how to deal with rejection yeah

1332
00:46:39.971 --> 00:46:41.232
Right?

1333
00:46:41.272 --> 00:46:44.025
And that covers everybody.

1334
00:46:44.026 --> 00:46:44.745
Mm-hm.

1335
00:46:44.746 --> 00:46:45.325
Not just,

1336
00:46:45.425 --> 00:46:45.685
you know,

1337
00:46:46.246 --> 00:46:47.606
jobbing actors and stuff like that.

1338
00:46:47.646 --> 00:46:47.826
Yeah.

1339
00:46:48.006 --> 00:46:48.327
You know,

1340
00:46:48.328 --> 00:46:49.547
right up to the very top,

1341
00:46:50.091 --> 00:46:53.653
you've always got to deal with that rejection now and again,

1342
00:46:53.913 --> 00:46:54.133
you know?

1343
00:46:54.153 --> 00:46:54.333
Yeah.

1344
00:46:54.865 --> 00:46:56.162
So that's that.

1345
00:46:56.163 --> 00:46:58.663
I'm assuming you're past the day of doing self-tapes and all that.

1346
00:46:59.203 --> 00:46:59.323
No,

1347
00:46:59.463 --> 00:46:59.583
no,

1348
00:46:59.643 --> 00:46:59.763
no,

1349
00:46:59.823 --> 00:47:00.363
absolutely not.

1350
00:47:00.684 --> 00:47:01.564
You've still got to do that.

1351
00:47:01.924 --> 00:47:02.044
Oh,

1352
00:47:02.104 --> 00:47:02.224
no,

1353
00:47:03.201 --> 00:47:03.601
And

1354
00:47:04.241 --> 00:47:05.222
I enjoy doing them.

1355
00:47:05.382 --> 00:47:06.198
Yeah.

1356
00:47:06.199 --> 00:47:07.198
And in many ways,

1357
00:47:08.063 --> 00:47:08.883
it's actually...

1358
00:47:09.099 --> 00:47:11.581
more rewarding to do a self tape and get a job.

1359
00:47:13.703 --> 00:47:15.192
And the thing is though,

1360
00:47:16.373 --> 00:47:17.154
self tapes,

1361
00:47:18.051 --> 00:47:22.810
they really kind of gain momentum during lockdown.

1362
00:47:23.210 --> 00:47:25.132
That's the big difference about auditioning.

1363
00:47:25.912 --> 00:47:27.073
Now for a part,

1364
00:47:27.394 --> 00:47:27.614
you know,

1365
00:47:27.674 --> 00:47:28.935
when I started out,

1366
00:47:29.579 --> 00:47:31.801
you would get a call to go and see

1367
00:47:32.978 --> 00:47:33.959
BBC about a drama.

1368
00:47:34.379 --> 00:47:34.519
Yep.

1369
00:47:34.960 --> 00:47:37.562
And you wouldn't have a clue what it was about.

1370
00:47:37.902 --> 00:47:38.423
You'd go in.

1371
00:47:38.887 --> 00:47:40.328
You'd be handed two bits of paper,

1372
00:47:40.889 --> 00:47:42.930
you'd have about five minutes in the corner to look at it,

1373
00:47:42.931 --> 00:47:44.592
and you'd go in and you'd read for it.

1374
00:47:44.772 --> 00:47:44.912
Yeah.

1375
00:47:45.292 --> 00:47:45.472
Right?

1376
00:47:46.733 --> 00:47:46.953
Now,

1377
00:47:48.801 --> 00:47:49.822
with self-taping,

1378
00:47:50.835 --> 00:47:53.156
they can see an awful lot more people.

1379
00:47:53.497 --> 00:47:53.617
Yeah.

1380
00:47:55.694 --> 00:47:58.515
And there's a lot...

1381
00:47:58.675 --> 00:48:01.458
So the competition is fiercer.

1382
00:48:01.994 --> 00:48:02.134
Yeah.

1383
00:48:02.494 --> 00:48:05.553
So that's the main difference now.

1384
00:48:06.521 --> 00:48:08.123
So if you do get a part...

1385
00:48:08.327 --> 00:48:09.068
By doing that,

1386
00:48:09.592 --> 00:48:13.027
you know that you've beaten an awful lot of people to the job.

1387
00:48:13.387 --> 00:48:13.867
Aye.

1388
00:48:14.668 --> 00:48:18.051
The downside is you don't have the interaction with the director.

1389
00:48:19.468 --> 00:48:22.651
So you've got to hit it dead right what they're looking for.

1390
00:48:23.331 --> 00:48:27.014
You don't have the luxury of somebody coming back to you and saying,

1391
00:48:27.015 --> 00:48:27.855
that was really good,

1392
00:48:28.035 --> 00:48:30.077
but could you do it this way a wee bit?

1393
00:48:30.517 --> 00:48:31.058
Aye.

1394
00:48:31.378 --> 00:48:32.559
So you've got to nail it.

1395
00:48:33.063 --> 00:48:33.944
And the other thing is,

1396
00:48:34.400 --> 00:48:35.822
when you do these self-tapes,

1397
00:48:36.402 --> 00:48:37.543
because of the competition,

1398
00:48:38.083 --> 00:48:41.628
You've pretty much got to hit performance level.

1399
00:48:41.928 --> 00:48:42.108
Yep.

1400
00:48:42.560 --> 00:48:42.800
You know,

1401
00:48:42.801 --> 00:48:44.061
you can't be walking through it.

1402
00:48:44.521 --> 00:48:45.421
You've got to absolutely,

1403
00:48:45.977 --> 00:48:46.397
more or less,

1404
00:48:46.537 --> 00:48:46.898
nail it.

1405
00:48:47.058 --> 00:48:47.258
Yep.

1406
00:48:47.438 --> 00:48:48.698
Which means learning it,

1407
00:48:49.414 --> 00:48:49.694
you know?

1408
00:48:50.134 --> 00:48:51.075
And that's the big difference.

1409
00:48:51.415 --> 00:48:52.195
Or you do what I do.

1410
00:48:53.047 --> 00:48:59.209
I write crib sheets all over the kitchen or the lounge when I'm doing it and do it that way.

1411
00:49:01.077 --> 00:49:03.462
And does the wife react all right with that?

1412
00:49:04.062 --> 00:49:06.483
Sometimes she's holding some of the crib sheets.

1413
00:49:06.683 --> 00:49:07.123
She's.

1414
00:49:08.124 --> 00:49:09.044
I remember once,

1415
00:49:09.145 --> 00:49:11.026
I didn't get this job it was an American job,

1416
00:49:11.558 --> 00:49:12.699
but I remember I had,

1417
00:49:14.176 --> 00:49:15.237
my wife was filming it

1418
00:49:16.005 --> 00:49:18.708
I had the lines going on her iPad,

1419
00:49:18.808 --> 00:49:22.611
she was filming it on my iPad the lines are going on an app,

1420
00:49:22.711 --> 00:49:24.572
scroll the lines on that iPad,

1421
00:49:25.033 --> 00:49:26.714
our Jack for one line,

1422
00:49:27.134 --> 00:49:32.819
he's sold stuff that was written on the back of a cornflake packet but soon it was all put together

1423
00:49:33.360 --> 00:49:33.800
I look great,

1424
00:49:33.801 --> 00:49:34.661
you wouldn't have known,

1425
00:49:35.333 --> 00:49:35.494
but

1426
00:49:36.158 --> 00:49:37.119
I didn't get that job.

1427
00:49:38.067 --> 00:49:38.727
Maybe that's why.

1428
00:49:39.008 --> 00:49:40.149
Maybe that's why.

1429
00:49:40.150 --> 00:49:42.110
I saw the cornflake back in the background.

1430
00:49:42.858 --> 00:49:48.318
But it's nice to know that someday your experience is still having to do that kind of stuff.

1431
00:49:48.538 --> 00:49:48.658
No,

1432
00:49:48.978 --> 00:49:54.142
but I think people a lot more experienced than me will still have to do that.

1433
00:49:54.783 --> 00:49:55.383
Especially,

1434
00:49:55.940 --> 00:49:56.200
you know,

1435
00:49:58.213 --> 00:50:01.800
you'll get a lot of the big film roles.

1436
00:50:02.848 --> 00:50:06.011
They'll want to have an idea of what it looks like,

1437
00:50:06.291 --> 00:50:07.512
of what it could look like.

1438
00:50:07.692 --> 00:50:07.852
Yeah.

1439
00:50:08.192 --> 00:50:08.312
So

1440
00:50:10.418 --> 00:50:17.499
I think you'll probably find that it's a very common occurrence for people to do that now.

1441
00:50:17.839 --> 00:50:18.079
Yeah.

1442
00:50:18.439 --> 00:50:19.040
Yeah.

1443
00:50:19.120 --> 00:50:20.180
It's one of my pet hates,

1444
00:50:20.201 --> 00:50:20.881
trying to do that now.

1445
00:50:21.021 --> 00:50:21.742
People mess with me,

1446
00:50:21.743 --> 00:50:22.462
do you want this role?

1447
00:50:22.482 --> 00:50:25.271
But I need a self-tape and I'm like,

1448
00:50:25.272 --> 00:50:26.913
I don't fancy doing that self-tape stuff.

1449
00:50:26.914 --> 00:50:28.854
I quite enjoy it.

1450
00:50:28.855 --> 00:50:29.254
I must say,

1451
00:50:29.255 --> 00:50:30.615
I quite...

1452
00:50:30.795 --> 00:50:31.556
If I get a cause...

1453
00:50:31.796 --> 00:50:32.737
We've got a self-tape for you.

1454
00:50:32.738 --> 00:50:33.017
I'm like,

1455
00:50:33.197 --> 00:50:33.437
yeah,

1456
00:50:33.438 --> 00:50:33.617
right,

1457
00:50:33.618 --> 00:50:33.893
come on,

1458
00:50:33.953 --> 00:50:34.293
let's go.

1459
00:50:34.513 --> 00:50:34.654
See,

1460
00:50:34.774 --> 00:50:35.394
I'm the opposite.

1461
00:50:35.434 --> 00:50:36.655
I'd rather see if you said to me,

1462
00:50:36.656 --> 00:50:37.175
go on a day this,

1463
00:50:37.176 --> 00:50:37.475
do that.

1464
00:50:37.476 --> 00:50:38.256
I don't give a shit.

1465
00:50:38.276 --> 00:50:39.316
I would do it in front of you,

1466
00:50:39.356 --> 00:50:41.057
but see if I had to do that in a camera.

1467
00:50:41.058 --> 00:50:41.898
It just feels weird.

1468
00:50:42.458 --> 00:50:43.138
I don't know why.

1469
00:50:43.498 --> 00:50:43.618
No,

1470
00:50:43.718 --> 00:50:43.879
well,

1471
00:50:43.919 --> 00:50:44.559
it's just maybe,

1472
00:50:44.579 --> 00:50:46.200
I don't know.

1473
00:50:46.201 --> 00:50:46.820
Something I enjoy.

1474
00:50:47.000 --> 00:50:47.541
Aye.

1475
00:50:47.542 --> 00:50:47.661
No,

1476
00:50:47.961 --> 00:50:48.381
fair play.

1477
00:50:48.881 --> 00:50:50.782
But it has been a pleasure having you,

1478
00:50:50.802 --> 00:50:51.163
Jonathan.

1479
00:50:51.443 --> 00:50:51.563
Ah,

1480
00:50:51.564 --> 00:50:52.363
thanks for having me.

1481
00:50:52.503 --> 00:50:57.626
It's good to hear the ins and outs of what goes on in the career of an actor.

1482
00:50:57.926 --> 00:50:58.046
So,

1483
00:50:59.047 --> 00:50:59.867
I appreciate it.

1484
00:51:00.448 --> 00:51:00.928
My pleasure.

1485
00:51:01.370 --> 00:51:01.752
you